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Finlock Gutters reline or remove?

Discussion in 'Roofing and Guttering' started by 098Joe, 25 Feb 2009.

  1. Timbo1

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    Hi yah Cymro32
    Having agreed to install your new fascia boards they should honour the agreement and install them. Your choices are to ask them are they still prepared to install them and if they aren’t get that in righting. Then you can look elsewhere for a reputable company.
    There are a few companies out there but not many do it properly.
    You need to be looking for a company who extends the rafters far enough out to install a vented soffit board.
    This is most important as your roof needs to breath and the gap created will prevent the cold from transmitting through into your home.
    For those companies out there that secure the fascia board within an inch or so of the remaining concrete the cold and damp will go straight through the fascia and through the wall.
    This method is the correct way and traditional, tried and tested and will require an additional row of tiles plus the felt replacing up the roof around three tiles.
    I wish you all the very best with this. Tim
     
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    Hi Tim,

    Thanks for the reply, are you the same Tim that I spoke to on the phone last week for a quote? I still havnt heard from this firm, I have left messages for them, and now cant be bothered trying, its their place to contact me. I have not signed anything or payed anything, just agreed in verbal. Its them thats breaking the contract anyway by not turning up or contacting me. From what I understood the fascia would be tight to the concrete. Its a semi-detachted, so could not add another row of tiles, unless you know of another way. If you are the same Tim as I phoned, I will be in touch this week.

    Thanks again Cymro
     
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    Hi yah

    Wasn’t sure if you were the same person as I have had a couple of people this year with similar stories.

    I look forward to hearing from you when you are ready.

    For anyone out there if I can help with advice or working for you please contact me.

    Kind regards Tim
     
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    Before having your concrete gutters cut off please contact your local council building inspector or a structural engineer for advice. NO building regulations or agreed standards exist for this type work (fact). This method appears to have been invented by an opportunist with other people jumping on the band wagon.

    Contact your local trading standards to see if the company you are employing for this method have had any complaints.

    It's your home - be careful.
     
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    Hi, could be pulling out of this bungalow purchase due to hassle and very unsure what is the right way.

    Flimsy PVC windows buckled under weight. Structural engineer report says remove all of Finlock around bungalow.

    UPVC guys seem to only want to cut of gutter portion then fit soffits etc and use window to support remaining Finlock. We feel lintel should be used?

    Which is the best way, structural guy surely?

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    the front of the gutter can be cut off around the main building but over the windows they need to be removed completely with lintels and adequate supports for the roof trusses.
    sack the pvc guy and employ someone who understands properties constructed with concrete finlock gutters
     
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    Well I wouldn`t buy any propert with finlock - same as I wouldn`t touch anything other than conventional construction ;) Then most jobs are DIY`able
     
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    Try using a product called Elastaseal by Tor Coatings. It is a seamless waterproofing system.
     
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    I've have damp coming through, x1 place from the front Finlock Guttering. Obtained various quotes from fully replacing, fairly expensive albeit the best perm. solution, covering with a x1 peace GRP System or Replacing and resealing with Lead.

    We are thinking to go with the lead option, cost/time of year not good for full replacement and GRP more expensive middle option.

    I've not seen lead replacement mentioned, any thoughts?

    Thanks.
     
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    Have a look at the Firestone epdm
     
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    For years, I have been sealing these gutters with products like fleaxcryl, but in all honesty, you will only get several years out of it.

    Ive seen a job done near by where the gutters are cut off flush with the wall, the joists extended, upvc fascia, soffits (vented ) and plastic guttering are installed, oh and an extra row of tiles added - basically.

    I will be quoting for this in future, looks so easy and it doesnt have to be pricey!

    Craig
     
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    Hello,
    I would appreciate your advice experience.
    I'm lucky enough to have Finlock gutters and over the past 12 years have had them relined with initially torch on felt and then asphalt. the rear ones are leaking into the bedrooms again.

    I have had 4 quotes and am not sure which way to go.

    1. local roofer comes highly recommended from a friend remove old lining and relining with asphalt £2400

    2. Purdeys apparently does all Leeds council house gutter relining, remove existing lining and reline in aluminum, £1500.

    3. Trent Valley fascia apparently has several council contracts, cut off external part of finlock gutter, extend rafters attached board to rafters and new upvc gutters, new down pipes, £2500

    4. TLG again local council contract for similar work. To cut off external part of finlock gutter, mount fascia on remaining concrete gutter and new aluminum gutter with new down pipes £3400.

    Am more tempted by removal rather than relining but am not sure about whether its best to mount new gutter on extended rafters with potential to alter roof angle and cause problems or mount of residual gutter/lintel which may alter the strength of concrete and result in additional cold bridging.
    Any thoughts would be much appreciated
     
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    Thanks I'll give him a call, if any body else has any experience with this problem, I'd appreciate your thoughts.
     
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