Hi guy's
As the topic suggests I have been told that this is 'illegal' is that right?
Cheers
Richard
As the topic suggests I have been told that this is 'illegal' is that right?
Cheers
Richard
fixed appliance on a plugtop
- Thread starter r.bartlett
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Nope, there is nothing stopping you wiring fixed equipment to a plug top as long as the load is <13A.
It's a wallmounted split air conditioner the amnufacturers rate it at 16a fuse but FLA is around 7a
Cheers
Richard
Cheers
Richard
Sounds like you could also use a 13A FCU which would be neater. It might have a switch-on surge, but the 16A might be necessary when it is installed in those countries which use radials instead of our wonderful Fused Plug and Ring Final Circuit.
How I pity those unfortunate foreigners
How I pity those unfortunate foreigners
r.bartlett said:
I assume that it didn't come with a plug. Contact the supplier for clarification on the 16A fuse requirement; (which is probably to cater for surges on the duty switching). Quote BS1362 for 13A fuses and ask them to check on the time/current curve and whether the 13A fuse is acceptable This appears to be a unit ex-UK - if the 16A "fuse" is required then it has to have a separate radial circuit with MCB and either a 15A plug/socket with round pins; or a european schuko plug/socket.
Personally, I think connecting a fixed split AC system to an existing ring circuit is cutting corners and IMO they should always be fed from a dedicated circuit. They should be treated like an emersion heater/storage heater because they are a fixed load.
Guy's
I'm concerned that it has been called 'illegal' that is all,
The "what I'd do" stuff is -whilst no doubt interesting- not really on topic
To reiterate
Is a fixed appliance powered via a 13a plugtop within a domestic situation considered legal
Yay or nay?
Cheers
Richard
FYI the unit in question (although again not relevant either) is an inverter which has a 'start' inrush of a big 3 amps
As a further example of this manufacturers' stupidity for some VRV systems the stated fuse rating is 16a. This is for a indoor fan motor which takes less than ONE AMP!!
I'm concerned that it has been called 'illegal' that is all,
The "what I'd do" stuff is -whilst no doubt interesting- not really on topic
To reiterate
Is a fixed appliance powered via a 13a plugtop within a domestic situation considered legal
Yay or nay?
Cheers
Richard
FYI the unit in question (although again not relevant either) is an inverter which has a 'start' inrush of a big 3 amps
As a further example of this manufacturers' stupidity for some VRV systems the stated fuse rating is 16a. This is for a indoor fan motor which takes less than ONE AMP!!
tim west said:
I asked here because this forum is filled with trade sparks skilled in UK electrical works and installations with the necessary skills/qualifications to match..
Only Davy actually addressed the question (thanks for that Davy) everyone else pontificated off topic with irrelevant 'advice'. -You being the latest and that's with the clarification post I added.....!!!
So by 'advice' what do you mean here exactly??
Cheers
Richard
Sorry wasn't being pedantic just offering advice as it seemed you were getting confused by the advice previously given. Asking a manufacturer rather than getting unsure answers was why i suggested contacting them.r.bartlett said:
Split air conditioners normally have two supplies, one to the outdoor and the other to the indoor unit.
As mentioned the indoor unit comprises little more than a fan, so it's OK to plug it into a socket. It's the outdoor unit that takes the power because it has a fan and a compressor. These days the compressor normally has an electronic soft start, so you don't have the starting transient problem.
To be pedantic, you could arrange an isolator so that it's capable of isolating supplies both to the indoor and outdoor units. I've never seen this arrangement in practice though.
As mentioned the indoor unit comprises little more than a fan, so it's OK to plug it into a socket. It's the outdoor unit that takes the power because it has a fan and a compressor. These days the compressor normally has an electronic soft start, so you don't have the starting transient problem.
To be pedantic, you could arrange an isolator so that it's capable of isolating supplies both to the indoor and outdoor units. I've never seen this arrangement in practice though.
tim west said:
I'm not getting confused by the advice !!
It's those who cannot grasp the question
Is a fixed appliance illegal when fitted with a plug top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeepers is that so difficult for everyone -except Davy- to comprehend??
Cheers
Richard
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