i do not like my new phone as its just too big but couldnt find one smaller that had the same specOh that's easy to answer:
It costs another £1000
I'm still firmly in the cheap ranges but it's getting more difficult as other people demand phones do more.
One of my big gripes is the size of them now.
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I don't know what your one 'does', or can do, but Samsung phones are not necessarily cheap - per this 'Special Offer' from Argos Mind you, as you can see, it comes with free delivery, so I guess that makes it a bargain?
To be more serious, although I have no experience of Android phones, what aveatry has just written seems to indicate that they suffer from the same problem as iPhones that I described, with increasing age making them less and less able to run current 'apps', eventually forcing one to 'upgrade', even though there is, in all other senses, nothing wrong with the phone one has.
Well, that one is a bit of a novelty but, apart from folding and so having a bigger screen, the same question applies; what do you get that makes it worth seventeen times the price?
Heaven knows - I certainly don't
As you presumably realised, my point was that it's clearly not just the identity of the manufacturer (e.g. Apple or Samsung) which determines how expensive a phone may be.
Ah that's not quite true, with apple phones they get to the stagewhere they cant be upgraded to later IOS and then a couple of upgrades later older IOSs are disabled and suddenly the iphone is a brick. At least that only happens with Android when they have no service to work on.
If by 'a brick', you mean that it won't work at all, I don't think that will happen. Just as with any OS (e.g. Windows) the day will come when an obsolete iOS is no longer 'supported' (hence no 'security updates' etc.), but it will still 'work' to some extent - even if not particularly as a 'smart' phone. With iOS I think that 'support' usually happens 5-6 years after initial release and it is then that, as well as not getting 'updates' to the OS, current versions of 'apps' become increasingly unable to be used.
Moving away from phones, countless millions of Windows 10 users are going to experience a similar issue in less than 1 month from now, since 'support' for Windows 10 will end on 14th October. After that date there will be no further updates (including 'security updates' etc.) and one imagines that (just like with the phones) the time will come when up-to-date versions of software/applications will stop working, or working properly/opimally, under Windows 10. [but a one-off 1-year extension to Windows 10, to Oct 2026, is apparently available to some users for $30]
I don't really understand this, but I've just looked into the Settings of a Windows 10 laptop I have (which cannot be upgraded to Windows 11) and found the following, indicating that I can have the extension to 13 October 2026 without charge (not $30) - so I pressed on the relevant button and now seemingly have that extended 'support'
I doubt it would become a brick. The Iphone, before my present one, was ancient, but still did, what it had always done. The only problem, that it wasn't compatible/able to run, some of the newer apps available. I paid a fraction, of the new cost, of my new Iphone, despite it being new - simply because newer models had appeared since. The latest ones, it seems, can in an emergency, make calls via satellite. I think I can struggle on, without that feature..
I had 3 old iphones in a drawer here when discarded bymy daughter and grandson when they stopped working, literally failed to perform as a phone except 999 IIRC: 3sport, se & one in between.
When my nephew said he wanted to leave one permanently running in his Scooby, I handed them to him and not being able to get them working tokk them to the apple store in Bluewater where all were declared too old to function, the tech was even surprised the se had been going that long - I'll guess only 10 years since discarded.
When my nephew said he wanted to leave one permanently running in his Scooby, I handed them to him and not being able to get them working tokk them to the apple store in Bluewater where all were declared too old to function, the tech was even surprised the se had been going that long - I'll guess only 10 years since discarded.
The SE was the very same phone I replaced, a few months ago, still working just fine, including the APPs, so why Apple might say that, I have no idea. Older phones, sometimes do lack the hardware features, needed to run some APPs, and maybe run too slow for others, so the APPs might insist on later OS.
As I said, so do I. I certainly know people still using iPhone 5s, even if they cannot 'do very much' (because of the 'app problem'.
It is - and it's not currently just this thread, either. However, at least so far, this "GD sub-forum" remains much more civilised and pleasant than does the "mother forum"
No android updates were available for my old phone, but it was quite capable of handling them. It was shipped with the current version at the time android 7 and from first use it updated to Android 8 and that was it, so now many new apps are not compatible as the current version is Android 15 just changing to 16.
So my new phone I was forced into buying is scheduled to have 5 years of updates before it then starts to get old.
It was £200 but others I looked at for £100 only came with the single current android version installed and no updates would be issued.
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