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[Knave of Hearts]

No idea i voted remain, but people who voted leave will say that we didn't get the Brexit that they were promised, even though i voted to stay, iv'e not noticed any change to be honest, contrary to the popular belief on here from some doom mongers, ie the great tomato famine and massive queues at Passport control.

You (and most other people) won't detect a difference for two reasons:
1. Any difference will be a slow progression, like a snail crossing a motorway. It's indiscernible, but it happens.
2. None of us, as an individual, are capable of making a 'what' if' comparison. Even experienced and talented economists would struggle to make an authoritative study alone. Although I suspect some on here are capable of leading a team of experts to produce a worthwhile report.

There may be other reasons, such as it being difficult to identify and separate other economic factors.

Fortunately some teams of experts have produced such reports. Here's one of them:

The average Briton was nearly £2,000 worse off in 2023, while the average Londoner was nearly £3,400 worse off last year as a result of Brexit, the report reveals.* It also calculates that there are nearly two million fewer jobs overall in the UK due to Brexit – with almost 300,000 fewer jobs in the capital alone.

New report reveals UK economy is almost £140billion smaller because of Brexit

Mayor reveals London’s economy alone has shrunk by more than £30billion

www.london.gov.uk

Here's another:

Trade
But the working assumption of the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), the government's independent official forecaster, is still that Brexit in the long-term will reduce exports and imports of goods and services by 15% relative to otherwise. It has held this view since 2016, including under the previous Government.
Immigration
There has been a big fall in EU immigration and EU net migration (immigration minus emigration) since the referendum and this accelerated after 2020 due to the end of freedom of movement.
But there have been large increases in net migration from the rest of the world since 2020.
Travel
It (the introduction of the EES) will replace the manual stamping of passports. The impact of this is unclear, but some in the travel sector have expressed fears it could potentially add to border queues as people leave the UK.
Law
According to the latest government count there were 6,901 individual pieces of retained EU law covering things like working time, equal pay, food labelling and environmental standards.
...
In May 2023 ... only 600 EU laws would be axed by the end of 2023, with another 500 financial services laws set to disappear later.
....
All other EU legislation was kept, though ministers reserved powers to change them in future.
etc.

Five key impacts of Brexit five years on

The UK left the European Union on 31 January 2020.

www.bbc.com

Of course you're not obliged to agree with their findings, and you're free to find a report which agrees with your opinion.

But I hope you can now understand why you, alone, won't discern any difference.
Overall, it's generally negative, seriously negative in some areas. And it will only get worse, i..e. cumulative.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Have you ever been to Gaza?

Is Gaza not integrated?
If not, whose fault is that?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

....
What's going on?

The trial of the Knave of Hearts in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland is for the "heinous crime" of stealing the Queen of Hearts' jam tarts. The trial is chaotic and nonsensical, presided over by the King of Hearts and featuring absurd witnesses like the Mad Hatter. Alice is called as a witness, but the trial dissolves into absurdity before a verdict can be reached.
the Queen of Hearts impatiently declares during the trial of the Knave of Hearts, ‘Sentence first—verdict afterwards’...

Lewis Carroll.

Very indicative of the logic of some on here.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Clearly not then. Best you follow your own advice and STFU about areas you know nothing about.

When were you last in Gaza, or the West Bank, or Israel, or the real world?

 

[Notch7]

The Home Office is (scandalously) largely staffed by foreigners and is headed by a foreigner, hence the pro-immigrant, anti-British propaganda it spews. Paid for, under threat of imprisonment, by the British taxpayer.

Don’t feed the troll

 

[Knave of Hearts]

What does what you wrote there have to do with my asking Pete if he'd visited some particular parts of Birmingham?

Obviously fillystine was attempting to throw in some whataboutery. But now he's been asked what is the relevance of his whataboutery, he's flounced off somewhere.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Looking forward to seeing your next avatar, assume you won't be moving over there any time soon.

I visit Birmingham regularly, well several times a year, for weeks at a time.
I have experience of Handsworth, Aston, Erdington, Sparkhill, Small Heath, Balsall Heath (I was born there, started school there), Moseley, Kingstanding, Northfield, and many other areas.
I've frequented many take-aways, especially in Handsworth, (Asian and Caribbean), Small Heath. Sparkill, Sparkbrook, Moseley, Yardley Wood, Stirchley, Kingstanding and the town centre for Japanese cuisine (Teppanyaki and Sushi).
Most of my friends from there are a mix of ethnicities and religions.

Birmingham is a wonderful mix of many cultures. I have similar experiences in Manchester. I'd happily live in Manchester or Birmingham.

My worst experience of Birmingham was with a group of friends, all policemen from Acocks Green, all white indigenous Brits. Out drinking, as you do, then curry afterwards.
They thought it was funny to eat their fill and do a runner.
I paid the bill for the four of us, and never socialised with them again.

Now some might dismiss this as an anecdote. It is, but it's also a genuine experience of mine.

 

[pete01]

I paid the bill for the four of us

Trip over while running out the door did you?

 

[fixitflav]

And to other areas and not see any black or brown ones.

So what? We still live in a mostly white country, not in a TV advert.

 

[Brigadier]

 

[SPLINE]

Forget all the murders, just think of the curry!

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So what? We still live in a mostly white country, not in a TV advert.

Is skin colour actually important ?

Surely it's the person (people) that matter

 

[pete01]

Quickly handed over that tenner didn't he....nice...

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Trip over while running out the door did you?

I didn't need to, I'd paid.
I gather from gossip afterwards that it was their normal escapade, and they were the police!

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Quickly handed over that tenner didn't he....nice...

Not like you. You claimed you'd won the wager, then you later let slip that Tom was banned and didn't leave on his own accord.
The bet was that he left on his own accord.
Have you paid him yet?

You're surely not going to renege on paying your debts after the hoo-ha you made when you thought you'd won.