Float Valve Not Working And Can't Find a replacement.

[johanisk]

Hi

New to this forum, so apologies if this is the wrong place...

I've just moved into a new house and it looks like the cistern float in my toilet cistern isn't doing it's job - it doesn't seem to cut off the water when the cistern is full and this is such a waste of water.

The problem is that it is a European style push button cistern and it is quite small as they obviously had to fit it into a tiny shower room. I had a look for a size or brand name but couldn't find one.

Visits to B&Q to look for a replacement cistern float and valve that will fit have turned up nothing and I'm really worried about all of the water I'm needlessly wasting.

Any help, or even getting pointed in the right direction of someone who can supply me a new valve would be very welcome. I've stuck some images of the cistern up here:

http://www.ubisan.com/toilet.html

Thanks!

 

[JohnD]

A Torbeck will fit. You might be able to fit a side-entry one on which will avoid the spillage from taking the old bottom-entry one out. they are only a few pounds.

If you buy a side-entry and can't make it fit keep it for next time you need a float valve, e.g. in the loft

 

[JPC]

turn the water off. undo the white large (ish) nut by the blue bit. this will come aprt. take it to ur plumbers/b and q and ask them for a replacemnt diaphram that it has inside. place it all back

 

[johanisk]

A Torbeck will fit. You might be able to fit a side-entry one on which will avoid the spillage from taking the old bottom-entry one out. they are only a few pounds.

If you buy a side-entry and can't make it fit keep it for next time you need a float valve, e.g. in the loft

Cheers for the v. quick answers! I bought one of these before but it didn't work because it had a mail connection and this wasn't compatible with the mail connection coming into the cistern. Or am I being stupid?

 

[johanisk]

turn the water off. undo the white large (ish) nut by the blue bit. this will come aprt. take it to ur plumbers/b and q and ask them for a replacemnt diaphram that it has inside. place it all back

done that. b & q were actually very helpful.

put it all back together and it's still not cutting the water off. am I going to have to get a whole unit?

thanks for your help anyway,

C

 

[JohnD]

On those plastic ones, it is possible to fit them cross-threaded. Once this has been done they will always tend to leak, but have a look and see if you can fit it better.

I would be inclined to buy a new one, they are only a few pounds.

 

[johanisk]

sorry john...

what do you mean by fitting it 'cross threaded'?

I fitted the new one and the water didn't cut off at all when the cistern fills past the float. On closer inspection, I've noticed that with the old diaphragm, the flow gets reduced somewhat when the cistern fills past the float.

 

[JohnD]

Ummmm... cross threaded... like when you haven't lined up the nut and the bolt perfectly, and it seems to screw on, but it isn't going on straight, and damages the threads in the two parts.

Buy a new one!

 

[watertight]

If it helps,

BES sell these identical valves, find them at www.bes.co.uk, item number 11204.

From my experience these valves are pretty lame, not as good as the aforementioned Torbecks.

From the look of it I reckon your WC might have come from Wickes, I've fitted a few in my time. Some of these float valves have never been right from day one. I've also purchased the same valve and fluch mechanism from Plumbase (although it set me back about £30)

Mark

 

[ChrisR]

Gone off Torbecks - try a Fluidmaster .