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[BoxBasher]

Wouldn't it be easier to bypass the meter?

Came accross a 'leccy meter once. The case had been drilled and a needle placed in on a thread to create resistance against the disc. If the cupboard door was opened the thread would pull the needle out making it almost impossible to see the meter had been tampered with.

 

[corgiman]

Are we all getting confused with gas valve inlet working pressure as opposed to appliance burner pressure?

Corgiman wish you could send a few pints to me I'm stuck in and run out of Grolsh & Bacardi

I have just sunk me last guiness so we are int he same boat me old muckker

we should really have a DIYNOT get together some day, and I say that ALL the drinks should be on tony agile

I dont know why that should be the case but its better than me gettin me wallet out

 

[corgiman]

Wouldn't it be easier to bypass the meter?

Came accross a 'leccy meter once. The case had been drilled and a needle placed in on a thread to create resistance against the disc. If the cupboard door was opened the thread would pull the needle out making it almost impossible to see the meter had been tampered with.

havent seen that before but seen many a sparky meter with a HUGE magnet on it

would that ever work?? would love to know


PS well done lor this has been a fun thread, now dont start having a go at me again

 

[namsag]

Got a mate who is a lazy shi#e and fits baxi combi`s on 15mm gas supply and i mean hundreds of them over the past few years. They work on 12.5mbar approx he never gets a compliant about not enough HW. His arguement is they get the right pressure at burner and work.

 

[corgiman]

THATS my point

why bother insisting on a 21 mbar working pressure whn all you need is a 16 BURNER pressure

again I have been in the game a while and have yet to see the catastrophic results of a working pressure above the burner pressur ebut below 21mbar

 

[namsag]

Magnet does work on leccy meter..

Funniest one i ever heard of was sitting talking to brother inlaw about fiddles found on gas meters told him about one where someone had took the meter out and had the vacuum cleaner on blow pushing the dials backwards. Well it would have took a month of sundays and cost a fortune in leccy.
Well his wife was ear wigging an picked up bits of conversation. Next night when he came home from work he could hear her hoovering in by the meter she had the nozzle on the still connected meter try to suck the dials back.. Dopey bitch

 

[ChrisR]

To answer the original question (!) yes you're getting more gas if the wp is 23mbar than if it's 16, but not much. Reason is that the meter wp we measure is relative to atmospheric, not "absolute".
So the real amount of gas you're getting is 1.023 versus 1.016, ie about half a percent difference. If you live on a mountain, tough! They do tinker with the CV to help that.

 

[clf-gas]

Well I've just got in an read this lot and theoretically (if thats spelt correctly) your all right, Burner pressures are lower because the gas transporter can supply gas as low as 12mb legally therfore burner pressure lower than supply pressure, again .

Anyway the only way to get FREE gas is like I do and thats to have more than one meter.

Oh yes I am.

 

[Paul Barker]

There is a BS on gas meters and their gosvenors, a question in the practical of my acs came up in which the permissible meter drop was mentioned I don't recall the amount but it's frightening figure.

The rules we on our side of the meter work to bear no relation to the rules those on the other side work to.

The long and the short of it is if our rules aren't met, inspight of what they say, we can at risk the appliance tofo and call them to let them know. Boot on the other foot for a change!

It is more than dangerous to not have sufficient gas, with a band A boiler because the compressor will hunt for gas, should it not be forthcoming the suction it imposes will suck the gas out of a hob, boiling pan goes out, in comes the householder to turn on the light 'cause it's geting dark FREE double page in the papers for the installer.

The suppliers are acording to the man I had turn up at a house to change a gosvenor "sick of changing gosvenors for these new band a boilers".

Well they should have a better stock then shouldn't they?

IF it isn't up to our standards we work to it has to be delt with.

 

[Jambo123]

inlet working pressure 21 plus or minus 2mb

 

[doitall]

I really wasnt being argumentative

I am because at a higher pressure you do get more energy, and by the same token you get less at a lower pressure.

It's all to do with compressing the carbons.

 

[scatmanjohn]

inlet working pressure 21 plus or minus 2mb

Its 21 ± 2 mbar working pressure at the meter. Inlet working pressure at the appliance should be no more than 1 mbar below that measured at the meter.

 

[cowboyplumber]

Best one I ever heard was:
Bloke gets done for fiddling meter - on flexis both side, so he could tilt meter to stop dial turning.
Local TV do a story on this, gas board man demonstrates what the customer did ON TV.
Profits dropped slightly

 

[Soggy_weetabix]

If a meter is throwing 13 mbar for example to a gas cooker(s) (due to faulty govenor) and it works on approx 20 mbar, you are getting nowhere enough gas you are paying for.

Meters dont understand pressure, just whats passing through them.

Saved a well known Indian restaurant a fortune for diagnosing this fault.

I was on Tony's patch so slap my wrists CORGIMAN

Dave

 

[Paul Barker]

The White Horse in Beverly used to be known as Nelly's after Nelly Compton the then survivor of three sister.

They still had gas lighting, rolled the glass in a bowl of the same water all night, most customers had gingivitus.

A little man used to come in every night and get a free pint. Folk law was he bypassed the meter for her.