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[Notch7]

In my opinion I would choose a Nikon or Canon DSLR camera, a lower mid range model then buy some lenses when ready.

a beginner won’t take better pics with a £3000 DSLR over a £500 DSLR, the limiting factor is knowledge, skill, accessories

 

[morqthana]

a beginner won’t take better pics with a £3000 DSLR over a £500 DSLR, the limiting factor is knowledge, skill, accessories

Years ago a newspaper I read ran a series where professional photographers were asked to take photos using a range of cameras - pro jobs, top-end "hobbyist", mid-range/budget hobbyist, posh phone, cheap phone.

They were all superb, even the ones from cheap phones.

 

[motorbiking]

It does entirely depend on what you want to photograph.

and you don't have to spend a fortune, but its better to buy a full frame camera than a crop sensor.

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Having said that. The canon 7D was the original high speed, Journalist crop sensor camera and they go for a few £100.

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If you bought one of these and a used travel lens, you could probably sell it for almost what you paid in a year.

Then perhaps some prime lenses (fixed zoom) and a longer lens.

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Try to avoid lenses that are f4, despite the tempting price.

Note some of the higher end cameras don't have a flash and of course none come with lenses.

 

[Highway Man]

Was looking at a used canon5d and at £1000 seems a bargain. L lenses for it too are reasonable used.

 

[Highway Man]

In my opinion I would choose a Nikon or Canon DSLR camera, a lower mid range model then buy some lenses when ready.

a beginner won’t take better pics with a £3000 DSLR over a £500 DSLR, the limiting factor is knowledge, skill, accessories

Yeah 100% agree. The way I am looking at it is to buy a camera to learn on and get the one that will grow with me rather than the faffin about selling it and upgrading.

 

[motorbiking]

Was looking at a used canon5d and at £1000 seems a bargain. L lenses for it too are reasonable used.

The mk4 was 2,300. There about when new.

70-200 f2.8 and a 24-70 will cover most. Or you can try a 24-105.

You will need EF fit not EF-s. Otherwise you will see edges.

EF works on full frame and crop sensor. EF-S only works on crop/APS-C.

 

[ETAF]

i used to be into a lot of phootgraphy and helped people in past
canon was my goto

Yeah 100% agree. The way I am looking at it is to buy a camera to learn on and get the one that will grow with me rather than the faffin about selling it and upgrading.

ok, but could also get expensive as you have mentioned L lenses

I stopped because i just got feed up lugging all the stuff around - and was not happy with my last canon purchase

i always purchased used lenses - easy to test out - from london camera exchange

had bridge camera as well , canon Pro1 years ago

niece has a bridge camera and i'm teaching her - has a lot og features

sony have stopped there bridge now

 

[Highway Man]

i used to be into a lot of phootgraphy and helped people in past
canon was my goto



ok, but could also get expensive as you have mentioned L lenses

I stopped because i just got feed up lugging all the stuff around - and was not happy with my last canon purchase

i always purchased used lenses - easy to test out - from london camera exchange

had bridge camera as well , canon Pro1 years ago

niece has a bridge camera and i'm teaching her - has a lot og features

sony have stopped there bridge now

What do you think to micro 4 thirds, was looking at the OM1 Mk1

 

[motorbiking]

The lenses do make a difference, you cannot take narrow depth of field photos on a lens that stops at F/4 so if you like that style you need an f2.8. Things like image stability are less important. Of course you can save money buying primes instead of zooms.

 

[Highway Man]

The mk4 was 2,300. There about when new.

70-200 f2.8 and a 24-70 will cover most. Or you can try a 24-105.

You will need EF fit not EF-s. Otherwise you will see edges.

EF works on full frame and crop sensor. EF-S only works on crop/APS-C.

Its so confusing with all of the different lens fitments, difficult to tell which lens goes with what fit.

 

[Highway Man]

The lenses do make a difference, you cannot take narrow depth of field photos on a lens that stops at F/4 so if you like that style you need an f2.8. Things like image stability are less important. Of course you can save money buying primes instead of zooms.

Yes I was looking at the Olympus OM1 as they have a 100 o 500 telephoto lens which is equivelent to a 1000mm full frame lens for a fraction of the cost of a full frame lens of the same focal length

 

[motorbiking]

Other than the sensor size.

That’s quite important.

 

[Highway Man]

Other than the sensor size.

That’s quite important.

So would you think a canon 5d rather than say a sony A7111 mirrorless? I have set a budget of £2500 so looking at used rather than new

 

[HayMaker]

I tried to get into photography a few years ago. I got an old Canon DSLR, and got a zoom lense (something like 400 or 600mm?) I can't remember. It did take good pictures yes, but as someone else said, the limit was my knowledge and patience which I didn't have a lot of. I sold all the kit for about the same as I paid for it.

Then I got a Panasonic TZ70 for just under £100. It's smaller than my phone, has 20 or 25x optical zoom, and I can bluetooth all the pics to my phone so I can then post them on family whatsapp chat etc. So much easier. If you really want to get into it, it has all the shutter speed and f value / white balance settings that you can really dial in. But I didn't bother. If I were you, I'd get a small bridge camera like the TZ range and see if it's really for you. If you exhaust it's settings and capabilities then by all means spend more on a dedicated DSLR

 

[Highway Man]

I tried to get into photography a few years ago. I got an old Canon DSLR, and got a zoom lense (something like 400 or 600mm?) I can't remember. It did take good pictures yes, but as someone else said, the limit was my knowledge and patience which I didn't have a lot of. I sold all the kit for about the same as I paid for it.

Then I got a Panasonic TZ70 for just under £100. It's smaller than my phone, has 20 or 25x optical zoom, and I can bluetooth all the pics to my phone so I can then post them on family whatsapp chat etc. So much easier. If you really want to get into it, it has all the shutter speed and f value / white balance settings that you can really dial in. But I didn't bother. If I were you, I'd get a small bridge camera like the TZ range and see if it's really for you. If you exhaust it's settings and capabilities then by all means spend more on a dedicated DSLR

Good advice, thanks