Full fat electrician

[Chri5]

Guys

Please excuse my obvious ignorance........

What defines (as of current times) the difference between a scheme qualified domestic electrician and an all singing (well maybe not) fully qualified electrician that can work on commercial projects.

JIB would require C&G 2360 1 & 2 and the fully apprenticeship, from what I understand.

Where does 2381 and 2391 come in to it?

Reason I ask, is that my base trade was IT systems, comms and networks, last year I decided to move towards DISQ and passed the NIC course

Of late I have been turning away what would be classified as minor electrical works within smaller commercial sites (travel agents, sub 20 staff offices, even pubs).

If I wanted to do these works, would 2381 classify me as competent?

I will never (ever) want to do large site contracting, I never want to be employed by other again (3 x redundancies packages in 12 years), so JIB seems to be OTT for my scope.

I would like to achieve full scope status, simply to allow the opportunity of doing all works within my clients sites and to offer a full turn key wiring service incorporating electrical services, voice, fibre and copper data cabling.

Thanks for your help / clarification.

 

[securespark]

I'm a full fat electrician....Well, @ 19 stone, I'm certainly not semi-skimmed!

 

[plugwash]

afaict there is no legal definition of qualified electrician, as long as your insurer will let you have insurance that covers you doing commercial work you should be fine.

some customers (or thier insurers) insist on NICEIC approved contractor status.

afaict 2381 was really meant as a refresher course for qualified electricians who were qualified under older editions of the regs but many people went into doing in directly because doing so was the easiest way in to the part P self cert schemes.

afaict 2391 is really a specialist course in inspection and testing BUT 2381+2391 is probablly the quickest way to satisfy the qualification requirements for NICIEC approved contractor status (the requirements are listed near the bottom of
http://www.niceic.org.uk/nonapproved/myths.html ) and has therefore become a popular qualification option.

 

[scousespark]

If you want to move on from DI to 'electrician', I'd suggest you look at the 2330 course. I personally think the idea that having 2381 (with no electrical installation training) doesn't indicate you are an electrician. The course only shows you can read a book. It would be like having a non-qualifie driver working as a driving examiner, because he knew the Highway Code.