Gap houses

[Ihavenojob]

There's some prefab houses (bungalows) not far from me, built post war. I think there were plans to rebuild them more than once into larger "proper" homes but residents really like them so objected to the plans - and probably enjoy the larger gardens they get than with newbuilds.

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Knock one of those down and the council will allow a block of 4 or 6 flats in place of it. We had loads not far from me, temporary, but lasted 70 years. I wonder if the hovels they put in place will last that long. They were fit for heroes, but not the modern whingers.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

So what is enough,

Enough to be able to eat properly.

Enough to be able to feed your kids properly

Enough to be able to clothe them properly.

Enough to be able to afford decent housing.

Enough to be able to provide a life so that your kids dont grow up feeling that they are not part of society.

Enough so that if you get ill your life doesnt fall apart.

For some reason, people want to live in and around London, where house prices are stupid,

Heres a puzzle for you - where do you think they should live if they work there?

If you want people to work in London, how far away should they be forced to live? How long a commute should they be forced to have?

 

[Ihavenojob]

Enough to be able to eat properly.

Which is how much ?

Enough to be able to feed your kids properly

Which is how much ?

Enough to be able to clothe them properly.

Which is how much ?

Enough to be able to afford decent housing.

Which is how much ?

Enough to be able to provide a life so that your kids dont grow up feeling that they are not part of society.

Which is how much ?

Enough so that if you get ill your life doesnt fall apart.

Which is how much ?

Heres a puzzle for you - where do you think they should live if they work there?

If you want people to work in London, how far away should they be forced to live? How long a commute should they be forced to have?

A huge amount in London don't work, why should they live in expensive accommodation at the tax payers expense ?

 

[fillyboy]

I've read many times over the the years that whenever they've moved people out of 'prefabs' to 'better' accommodation there have always been protests. They were built with something like a 20 year lifespan but to the people who live there, they've become nice communities. Something they're not going to find in a tower block.

A lot of 'London overspill' live in caravan parks, for some it's a second home, for others it's a cheap primary residence, to stay cheap they might only be able to live there 10 months a year and visit relatives for the other 2 months, or just keep their heads down. From what I've heard they love it and wouldn't want to live any other way, it's the sense of community.

Wouldn't be good enough for asylum seekers though, oh deary me no.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Which is how much ?
Which is how much ?
Which is how much ?
Which is how much ?
Which is how much ?
Which is how much ?

I dont know the specific amount, but I do know from widespread and long time reporting that the lowest paid dont get paid enough to afford those things.

Do you think they do?

A huge amount in London don't work,

Define "huge amount".

why should they live in expensive accommodation at the tax payers expense ?

Where should they live?

What should happen to families where the breadwinner loses their job?

 

[Ihavenojob]

I dont know the specific amount, but I do know from widespread and long time reporting that the lowest paid dont get paid enough to afford those things.

Do you think they do?

What things. necessities or luxuries ?

Define "huge amount".

More than you can count to.

Where should they live?

Beggars can't be choosers, if you were unemployed and desperate, you would take what was offered.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

What things. necessities or luxuries ?

Stop wriggling, and refer to the earlier post.

More than you can count to.

Stop wriggling and answer the question.

I mean, you can answer it, cant you?

This wasnt just some made-up nonsense with no basis in fact, was it?

A huge amount in London don't work

Beggars can't be choosers, if you were unemployed and desperate, you would take what was offered.

Why do you think that people who are unemployed should be turned into desperate beggars?

Why do you think that childrens lives should be deliberately wrecked by people like you as punishment for their parent(s) losing their job?

 

[fillyboy]

Why do you think that people who are unemployed should be turned into desperate beggars?

Exactly, it would put a lot of Romanians out of work.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Stop wriggling and answer the question.

I mean, you can answer it, cant you?

366,000

Stop wriggling, and refer to the earlier post.

food, clothing, heating, yes. TV, iphone , designer clothes, NO.

 

[sxturbo]

I can't understand it. The government has promised lots of new homes. What's the trouble?

"The Tories' 2015 manifesto committed the party to building 200,000 'Starter Homes', to be sold at a 20% discount and exclusively available to first-time buyers under the age of 40.


David Cameron, the Prime Minister at the time, said it would give young people shut out of the housing market the chance to to access "decent, well-built, homes with gardens - places to start and raise a family".


More than £2bn was allocated to the programme in the November 2015 spending review.

But a report by the National Audit Office found no evidence that any homes had been built under the programme - with the legislation needed to enforce the scheme yet to make it into law"

https://www.politicshome.com/news/a...gship-2015-tory-housing-pledge-watchdog-finds

Should come to North Essex, building homes everywhere, if there's a plot of land anywhere it's bought up and a house built.

Approximately 144,000 additional homes are being planned in Essex up to 2036.

One of the biggest problems for the housing shortage is the council selling off social housing and not building replacements. Partly because they are giving the houses away for rediculous sums of money and they don't cover the cost of a new house.

 

[Brigade77]

What extreme Marxist socialists don't seem able to grasp is the fact that if you build it they will come.

There is a BIG difference between can't work & won't work, why should anyone bother to go to work if the socialists provide.

We really do need socialism in our society, capitalism would be unbearable for a steadily increasing proportion if it were left uncontrolled, but we don't need or want Marxism. They know this, they know that their only route to power is to hijack & infect less extreme politics & corrupt it from within. Like a parasite.

As has been proven in many large cities where demand & therefore rents are high, people are getting the keys to these houses, immediately sub letting & pocketing the difference.

Grenfell Tower. How many residents were the official tenants???

Extreme socialists are ruining our society in the belief that we will turn to them to rebuild it.

 

[sxturbo]

The house prices can't be that bad for youngsters

https://www.showhouse.co.uk/news/nu...Buyers have been,the highest level since 2007.

Seems once the younger generation are forced to stay at home and save they find the money easy enough.

If they were willing to sacrifice some of there lifestyle in the short term they could easily garner a deposit.

They don't have to have fancy cars, clothes, expensive nights out, multiple holidays a year, latest fancy iPhones etc etc

To buy my first house 7 years ago, I sold all my "toys" so did my now wife, and we limited our going out for a year.

Had the 15k deposit and solicitor fees in no time really.

 

[Ihavenojob]

One of the biggest problems for the housing shortage is the council selling off social housing and not building replacements. Partly because they are giving the houses away for rediculous sums of money and they don't cover the cost of a new house.

It used to be that the money they got for the sale of homes couldn't be used to build new ones, but was given to the treasury. Maybe the RTB rules have changed, if not, they should.
Wifes friends kid just bought a 1 bed new build flat, £350k, said to be an "affordable" home.

 

[sxturbo]

It used to be that the money they got for the sale of homes couldn't be used to build new ones, but was given to the treasury. Maybe the RTB rules have changed, if not, they should.
Wifes friends kid just bought a 1 bed new build flat, £350k, said to be an "affordable" home.

Jesus wept, how can anyone say that's affordable

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

If you are thinking about going abroad like say France for example ??
Get a hat with some type of safety feature inbuilt just in case some one try’s to mug you

And keep yer hand on yer wallet

Exactly, it would put a lot of Romanians out of work.

I see transam's persistent and repetitive xenophobia is radicalising other gullible bigots.
It illustrates how gullible they are to believe and adopt the ideology of the forum's notorious liar.

I'm beginning to understand how their bigotry is born:
someone exposes them for their bigotry or lies and they immediately form more bigotry against the whole group represented by the one who exposed their bigotry and lies.
Thus their further bigotry is built on top of bigotry, until their whole ideology is built on all sorts of bigotry.
Then their constant repetition of their bigotry radicalises others, and more bigots are attracted to build further bigotry.
In the process they exploit the protection afforded them by a website to persist with their promotion of hatred and division.