GasSafe and the quality of registered gas fitters

[bernardgreen]

Worth watching

BBC Watchdog 14th Nov 2018

Fast forward to 25 minutes into the program.

They reported on a gas"safe" workman whose work ( new boiler install ) left a customer with serious carbon monoxide poisoning. Although Gas"safe" were informed the workman is still on the Gas"safe" register.

There are two sides to most stories and maybe Watchdog over played the incidents they reported.

 

[Dan Robinson]

The system is woefully inadequate yes.

But so is the level of accuracy /research carried out by this shambles of a TV show.

 

[bernardgreen]

The system is woefully inadequate yes.

But so is the level of accuracy /research carried out by this shambles of a TV show.

Are you suggesting that a more adequate level of accuracy/research would produce (a) more examples or (b) fewer examples.

 

[Iamchamps]

Every single trade and any job role for that matter will have people who have passed courses, completed training and appear competent but do a sub standard job.

 

[ianmcd]

I am not a fan of Gas safe or its predecessor by any means , but that video and your views are so inadequate , remember this show used to have the presenter running around with his big mate on a motorbike and it was proven in a court of Law that his mate was working illegally and claiming benefits, BBC for your fake news to scare you , any boiler that was leaking products of combustion in to any room, will not necessarily have excessive carbon monoxide levels , if there are smokers in a house an ambient level of CO would be as high as 30 PPM modern boilers do not produce very high levels, a new boiler even if the flue was leaking would not necessarily cause any danger, the anaconda shown in that video is the responsibility of the gas transporter not the Gas safe engineer, you can not smell CO as it was claimed in the video, an experienced Gas safe engineer will recognize smells and signs if there is a POC problem, in most case will be on an open flued or flueless appliance very seldom on a modern room sealed appliance no matter how badly installed, stop posting about things that you do not understand and making people panic , shows like this and people like you cost an awfull lot of money to companies who have to deal with this

 

[hard-work]

Worth watching

BBC Watchdog 14th Nov 2018

Fast forward to 25 minutes into the program.

They reported on a gas"safe" workman whose work ( new boiler install ) left a customer with serious carbon monoxide poisoning. Although Gas"safe" were informed the workman is still on the Gas"safe" register.

There are two sides to most stories and maybe Watchdog over played the incidents they reported.

Shocking Bernard. It is more typical than you think.

 

[ianmcd]

Shocking Bernard. It is more typical than you think.

REALLY shows how much you and camberwick actually know

 

[hard-work]

Yes REALLY. Do you know all screw up which go on? Judging by what I come across, there is a lot. The quality of installs is very poor overall.

 

[durhamplumber]

Yes REALLY. Do you know all screw up which go on? Judging by what I come across, there is a lot. The quality of installs is very poor overall.

Not to mention,the quality of posts on here.

 

[bernardgreen]

you can not smell CO as it was claimed in the video, an experienced Gas safe engineer will recognize smells and signs if there is a POC problem,

In the Watchdog program the first case was the lady smelt gas, In the second case the husband found semiconscious was diagnosed as suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning by paramedic and confirmed by A&E staff.

Ambulance and A&E staff treat people suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning and do not necessarily report the incident to the authorities if the the patient survives. If the casualty dies then the coroner may initiate a police investigation.

an experienced Gas safe engineer will recognize smells

but as you say carbon monoxide cannot be detected by smell.

 

[bernardgreen]

Shocking Bernard. It is more typical than you think.

I doubt GasSafe have access to A&E statisitics on incidents of carbon monoxide poisoning

 

[ianmcd]

Ambulance and A&E staff treat people suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning and do not necessarily report the incident to the authorities if the the patient survives. If the casualty dies then the coroner may initiate a police investigation.

if a confirmed Carbon monoxide incident has occurred, doesent have to be fatal, any qualified health professional must report this to the HSE and and an investigation must be carried out , by a qualified investigator

 

[ianmcd]

Yes REALLY. Do you know all screw up which go on? Judging by what I come across, there is a lot. The quality of installs is very poor overall.

so you just come across them, what about when us tradesmen come across you DIY clowns does that not count ?????

 

[hard-work]

so you just come across them, what about when us tradesmen come across you DIY clowns does that not count ?????

No DIYer Mr ianmcd. But you are right, poor workmanship is unacceptable, especially when you are paying for it.

 

[bernardgreen]

Gas Tag seems a good idea

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any qualified health professional must report this to the HSE and and an investigation must be carried out

Can you support that with a link to relevent guidelines or regulations ? Reporting over 4000 non fatal CO incidents per year would keep the HSE very busy. And many near casualties believe they have flu and do not report themselves as CO casualties.