Getting lighting & power into a garage w/no elec connect

[JohnD]

Buy yourself a rechargeable fluorescent lantern now, and think about a camping generator if you can't get used to not having sockets in there.

 

[markwithey]

You can get a Mole device that tunnels through the ground towing the cable behind it.

An easy job but the contractors prices are set to be about the same as digging up and reinstating the road, since that's what people are willing to pay.

You can have a look at the land registry documents to make sure you really do own the land and see what rights are registered against it.

Hiya mate. Could you tell me a little more about those mole devices? Approx cost? Is it viable for this? This sounds good as it would get me some sockets in the garage and that's exactly what I want.

Ta,

Mark

 

[JohnD]

Specialist cable laying companies have them. You don't buy or hire it, you get a van with the steering and driving equipment in it and a couple of operators. They take care not to bore through water or electricity mains very often, and seldom have to dig then out when they get stuck.

They are used by utilities companies a lot.

Not sure what they'd be in the yellow pages, perhaps "cable laying contractors" or something like that.

 

[breezer]

gas board use them too.

but you still ahve to dig 2 holes, one at each end so i believe

 

[JohnD]

gas board use them too.

but you still ahve to dig 2 holes, one at each end so i believe

I'm told the operator can make them turn upwards and pop out of the ground in the proper place like... well, a mole, I suppose.



Here's an interesting site

http://www.umole.co.uk/index.htm

 

[securespark]

I would be inclined to put a duct, at least under the right of way, to avoid ever having to dig it up again.

While you're at it, lay one for the phone cable.

And the TV

And the Broadband

And the alarm

And the water pipe.

And the draught lager.

Just to confirm what John is saying, make sure the SELV cabling is not in the same duct as the low voltage stuff, or if it is, make sure the insulation is to the same standard as the 230V stuff.

 

[breezer]

must be good operators then, becuse i borrowed the above pic from the site mentioned.

hole at each end

 

[plugwash]

i've seen two systems for temp traffic lights,

for very temporary lights in simple situations they normally use a rubber protector strip, i don't think its hugely expensive and it can be driven over without problems. I have a feeling that if they are running accross public road they can only be used for ELV though.

the other thing i've seen on semi-permanent (e.g. when a new building is being built and some lanes are closed for a year or so) is very narrow and it appears very shallow trenches filled in with a very soft tarmac mix (similar to the stuff they seem to use for temporary ramps after scraping down the road before resurfaceing), in this type of setup the lights themselves are full size and supported by large concrete filled drums (which have a tube down the middle that the traffic light pole sits in).

 

[JohnD]

must be good operators then, because i borrowed the above pic from the site mentioned.

hole at each end

Yes, I saw that too, and wondered. I was told by somone who'd watched an installation that it was steered by the operator, and the op told him to watch a traffic island, and it popped up there.

Presumably a differend kind of thing.

Never saw one in use myself.

 

[breezer]

clever though arent they.

 

[RF Lighting]

Can't you just catch a real mole? I bet that would be cheaper

 

[breezer]

yes, but it wouldnt know which way to go

 

[JohnD]

yes, but it wouldnt know which way to go

Put a lady mole in the garage, squeaking seductively.

 

[breezer]