give me shelter

[billyo]

should people be given council housing for life ,or should we do as the torys say , no alco's, druggies, pedo's, life long dossers. work shy, unmarried one parents , you only get housing as a temporary measure to help you and your family in the short term.
you cant have it for ever as a right , they also say if you give housing for life we turn many places into ghetto's

 

[Norcon]

What the current situation under the ss?

 

[imamartian]

Council housing should be a resource available to help people who can't provide housing for themselves. But people who abuse that priviledge, or abuse society as a whole, should lose that right. People who make it good (measurable through some sort of means testing) should give up their council house. And should people have council houses for life? Yes if they fit in the above category for life...

What about right to buy?.... well that's ok, as long as you build as many as you sell..... give or take depending on the waiting list.....

Simple really isn't it?

 

[libby lou lou]

What the current situation under the ss?

Germany?

 

[WDIK]

Council housing should be a resource available to help people who can't provide housing for themselves. But people who abuse that priviledge, or abuse society as a whole, should lose that right. People who make it good (measurable through some sort of means testing) should give up their council house. And should people have council houses for life? Yes if they fit in the above category for life...

What about right to buy?.... well that's ok, as long as you build as many as you sell..... give or take depending on the waiting list.....

Simple really isn't it?

so a couple of 4x4's parked outside denotes what?

 

[Norcon]

What the current situation under the ss?

Germany?

You should know the answer to that Lou Lou as your sponging off us taxpayers.
When people claiming benefits receive X amount set by a body independent of the government and is deemed to cross a certain threshold , they should lose the right to vote.
Im sick of socialist agendas holding this country to ransome.

 

[WDIK]

Council housing should be a resource available to help people who can't provide housing for themselves. But people who abuse that priviledge, or abuse society as a whole, should lose that right. People who make it good (measurable through some sort of means testing) should give up their council house. And should people have council houses for life? Yes if they fit in the above category for life...

What about right to buy?.... well that's ok, as long as you build as many as you sell..... give or take depending on the waiting list.....

Simple really isn't it?

Dunno, you tell me..

But i was talking about means testing... it should be used where benefits are applied for and council housing etc

so a couple of 4x4's parked outside denotes what?

and your post being?

 

[WDIK]

a bit wierd that imartian

 

[^woody^]

The issue is that this is social housing, and society does have all sorts of people, who have various needs which should be provided by a caring society.

There are already many ways for tenants to be relieved of their tenancies under contract or housing law.

If a tenant does anything contrary to their tenancy agreement, or implied terms under relevant law, then the landlord can apply for eviction.

Consider .... should the council be responsible for helping out all those homeowners who have racked up credit card debts with all their holidays and posh cars, but are now facing repossession by the mortgage company and no prospect of the breadwinner getting an other job? Do they deserve a council house over some poorer person who has never had the opportunity to live such a life?

The issues of who should get, or remain in a council house, are not solved by denying the people a place to live. They are wider social issues, with remedies that lie elsewhere

 

[Deluks]

I believe a certain amount of homes should just be given away, to simply save the hassle and cost of the admin involved in tenancy, and to cater for the fact that there will be a certain amount of people who will always be in a council home so just give them one outright and let that be that.

Of course strict un-squirmoutable conditions should be imposed.

One that springs to mind:

In many other countries, teenage girls that get pregnant do not automatically qualify for a free place to live, and that fact by itself deters many young girls from getting pregnant in the first place. The ones that do, end up back at home with their parent(s) and have the bring the baby up there as one big (un)happy family.

So anyone here who gets a free home should have it made clear that if any of their offspring find themselves up the duff, then they (the girl) won't receive any form of housing themselves, as their parents home will have to accommodate all 3 generations.

 

[Shytalkz]

Blimey, Woody, your social conscience springs forth

 

[billyo]

who should be first and who should be last on the list,
people have posted that council's do expel bad tenants , but what happen's to them if they have kids.

 

[^woody^]

If a tenant breaches the tenancy conditions and is evicted, then it is irrelevant if they have kids or not. However, children will be taken into account by the court when deciding if eviction is warranted.

Social housing allocation is decided by need, and the criteria is set in law. There is no automatic right to a council house, but an assessment is made of the applicants situation and a decision made on that. There is no "list" with people first or last

When an applicant is deemed to qualify for housing then the council is responsible for housing them - but this requirement is limited to a property which is suitable and not necessarily a nice big house

With regards to "other countries" then these have their own problems too. But I would like to think that we would look after our people better than "other countries" .... admittedly that is why so many people want to live here .... but thats another issue

 

[mark vincent]

Maybe we should go back to the good old days of the private landlord like Rachman and houses with no bathrooms outside bogs and all that kind of thing.

If a war starts and conscription is brought back will people from council estates be barred because they are from council estates and therefore unfit to associate with 'decent' people.

 

[solo]