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Going back on the trowel after 20 years

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by hoq, 9 Feb 2020.

  1. hoq

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    Hello. Im thinking of going back on site as a Bricklayer after a long time of doing other things. I thought id get opinions of how to approach it. Im bound to be slower from lack of practice and there will be a lot of things that have changed.. Ill be honest and let them know im out of practice and i'm prepared to take a pay cut until im up to speed. I understand its through agencies a lot these days. And ive got to get a new CSCS and I presume CIS card.
    So any thoughts?
     
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  3. Ian H

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    How about building someone a kitchen, garden wall or something first? Get the wrist back in action before you go on site.
     
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    No problem with the wrist, us men make sure its well used.

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  5. Notch7

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    theres a shortage of bricklayers -or at least proper brickies that can set out.

    did you want to work on new build or with a local builder doing extensions etc.

    In my area in mid Sussex, there is a shortage of good tradesmen generally, builders struggle to get skilled workers
     
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    How's your Polish.
     
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  9. hoq

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    Sorry people I didn't see the email to notify your replies.
    I was thinking of going on site (new build) I never liked it before but it's regular and straight forward to get started.
    A private job or two would help to start but I'd probably have to advertise and round here that rarely works. I've heard it's done through Facebook now but I know nothing about FB.
    On the other point raised I got out just before the economic border control was relaxed. In my day blockwork was £10 a metre. I heard stories of £4 a couple of years later.
     
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    you dont give dates or your age or qualifications (if any) and years of experience doing what kind of bricklaying?
    do you have a basic set of brickie tools?

    anyway, i'd suggest that you try at any local small sites doing extensions or refurbs etc.
    be honest and just ask for a shot.
    be ready to work there and then.
    if they want a laborer then be it - get your foot in the door, & keep your mouth shut.

    as suggested you could practice in your backyard:
    get a couple of bags of sand, and a bag of lime (L&S allow you to clean off the bricks easy) and pull some bricks from a skip, & then start on the line and later start racking.
     
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    On the bigger sites you will absolutely need a CSCS card (blue for level2, gold for level 3) together with basic PPE (boots - many sites insist on S1P or S3 as they have sole protection, hi viz, hard hat, etc).

    To get a CSCS card you'll need to do the H&S test (£21 if you apply directly to the CITB - avoid third party firms to book the test as they will just rip you off) then apply for a card (£36 again direct from CITB CSCS, needs proof of relevant NVQ and passport photo, takes a couple of weeks although many places will let you on if you have a copy of the test pass sheet and can show that you've applied for a card). Don't be tempted to go for a green (labourer) card - you now need to do a 1 day course as well as the H&S test before applying for a green card (which costs a lot more than just getting a trade card) and more and more bigger sites are refusing to take trades who turn up with a green card.

    CIS is no longer a card - just ring Customs & Revenue and request your UTR (unique tax reference) which will take them a couple of weeks to post out to you.

    And yes, a lot of work these days is through agencies who will pay you through a payroll company, but avoid any that want to put you through an umbrella scheme (unless you thoroughly investigate it - it's all too easy to get rinsed) and any that insist you go PAYE only. Expect to pay £25 to £20 a week (rhis is deducted pre tax) for the services of the payroll firm. The one good thing you can say for these arrangements is that you get paid a week in hand by almost all of them and that if the client goes belly up you are still going to get paid.

    Good luck!
     
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    what an excellent post J&K, full of the right stuff and bang up to date.
     
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