Gorton and Denton

[King Billy]

I'd hope you'll be right. But I think simple demographics will be against us here. Farage said the other day that it was their 400-odd'th best seat, he's preparing for the reality that Reform would have to swing the vote by an absolutely mammoth degree to win here.

The Muslim vote just defies logic, policies and common sense. This seat is representative of a colony doing its own thing. It's sectarianism, like Northern Ireland in the bad old days - people voting without question for the mob that claims to represent them. Thankfully it doesn't represent what will happen across the entire country in the general election that we'll have in a few years.

Prepare to lose the fight, but we'll win the war in the end.

Fargae has convinced their voters to hate foreigners. Are you surprised that non-indigenous people in UK also hear the message, and keep themselve to themselves?

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Fargae has convinced their voters to hate foreigners. Are you surprised that non-indigenous people in UK also hear the message, and keep themselve to themselves?

Oh. So are you saying that everything was fine before Farage entered politics then?

I've lived within Britain's diversity-is-our-strength society. I now don't.

I have a good theory that there's a close link between those that bang on about how great diversity is and not living in the affected areas. It's easy to spout about how enriched the country's becoming while living in a chocolate box white village where they don't.

 

[MNW67]

Oh. So are you saying that everything was fine before Farage entered politics then?

I've lived within Britain's diversity-is-our-strength society. I now don't.

I have a good theory that there's a close link between those that bang on about how great diversity is and not living in the affected areas. It's easy to spout about how enriched the country's becoming while living in a chocolate box white village where they don't.

I would be interested in your experience of what you found particularly bad and how it is better for you since you moved.

 

[King Billy]

Oh. So are you saying that everything was fine before Farage entered politics then?

No, I'm saying things were a lot better.
He's not the only cause of politics going down the pan in UK, Boris had a hand in it, and a few other deadbeats.

I've lived within Britain's diversity-is-our-strength society. I now don't.

You're welcome to your opinion, but it's just your opinion, which we know is skewed by your prejudice.

I have a good theory that there's a close link between those that bang on about how great diversity is and not living in the affected areas.

Collect some data and present your hypothesis with a hint of evidence and we'll discuss it.
Until then it's not a theory.

This is the Difference Between a Hypothesis and a Theory​

This is the Difference Between a Hypothesis and a Theory

In scientific reasoning, they're two completely different things

www.merriam-webster.com

It's easy to spout about how enriched the country's becoming while living in a chocolate box white village where they don't.

It's much easier when you can enjoy the delights of other's cultures.
When was the last time you ate something of foreign origin?
When was the last time you watched a foreign film, or saw a foreign play?
When was the last time you went to a foreign groups music concert?
When was the last time you went abroad?
etc.

 

[SPLINE]

Obviously. They've heard the mad rhetoric from Gumbynews.

No, it's the lived experience for many.

Oh. So are you saying that everything was fine before Farage entered politics then?

Just like everything was fine in the US before Trump.

 

[King Billy]

No, it's the lived experience for many.

As told to them by Gumby news.

Just like everything was fine in the US before Trump.

No-one claims it was.
Yet another strawman argument from the resident strawmen generators.

 

[motorbiking]

Oh. So are you saying that everything was fine before Farage entered politics then?

I've lived within Britain's diversity-is-our-strength society. I now don't.

I have a good theory that there's a close link between those that bang on about how great diversity is and not living in the affected areas. It's easy to spout about how enriched the country's becoming while living in a chocolate box white village where they don't.

It's all about critical mass, Its the same when Brits "invade" other countries/regions. The first few integrate by necessity, once a critical mass exists the need to integrate drops. Then its about owning and influencing the space you live in.

I currently split my time between two locations. One is 15% immigrant, the other is 3%. Its very noticeable.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

No, I'm saying things were a lot better.
He's not the only cause of politics going down the pan in UK, Boris had a hand in it, and a few other deadbeats.

Ever considered the possibility that changing circumstances have led to changing opinions? That people were previously fine with the limited numbers but have seen a massive change in our society, for the worse. The change in sentiment is coming from the ground-up, not from the top-down.

Your silly idea of anyone disagreeing with you being some easily led brainwashed simpleton is pathetic.

Nobody ever voted for immigration on this scale. In fact the last several general elections have been won by parties promising to control it, lying obviously.

We aren't going back to the happy-clappy everyone make a daisy chain together days. Things have changed, permanently. Our elected leaders are being swapped out for people who reflect what the majority now think, not what these same people previously believed.

 

[King Billy]

I currently split my time between two locations. One is 15% immigrant, the other is 3%. Its very noticeable.

Only to those that want to notice, that think t's important.

 

[King Billy]

Ever considered the possibility that changing circumstances have led to changing opinions? That people were previously fine with the limited numbers but have seen a massive change in our society, for the worse. The change in sentiment is coming from the ground-up, not from the top-down.

I haven't noticed any difference at all. It's your skewed perception.

Your silly idea of anyone disagreeing with you being some easily led brainwashed simpleton is pathetic.

Your simpleton and vulnerable brain swallows it all, hook, line and sinker.

Nobody ever voted for immigration on this scale. In fact the last several general elections have been won by parties promising to control it, lying obviously.

Nobody voted for tax rises, but they happen.

We aren't going back to the happy-clappy everyone make a daisy chain together days.

I hope not, that was in your nursery days.

Things have changed, permanently.

Times, things always change permanently.

 

[ellal]

I currently split my time between two locations. One is 15% immigrant, the other is 3%. Its very noticeable.

When you say it's noticeable, are you talking about your prejudice level?

 

[SPLINE]

I haven't noticed any difference at all. It's your skewed

When you say it's noticeable, are you talking about your prejudice level?

Bonkers, totally bloody bonkers.

 

[MNW67]

Bonkers, totally bloody bonkers.

Obviously, it is noticeable that there are more ethnic minority people in those areas.

But what other changes are noticeable. Are they cleaner/dirtier. Do they feel less safe.

 

[motorbiking]

The Guardian seems to be the only news outlet willing to do a plug for the greens on polling day as most have observed the convention of media "blackout".

Polls open in Gorton and Denton byelection amid three-way battle between Greens, Labour and Reform

Voters head to the polls in south-east Manchester in one of the most unpredictable byelections in recent years

www.theguardian.com

 

[MNW67]

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