Greenland Vs NATO

[motorbiking]

And has ended up with pretty much the same as he had before

only cheaper and better `

 

[MNW67]

the UK pays 35bn to Mauritius who don't even have an army to rent back islands that we previously bought and owned anyway.

What does Trump's intervention mean for the Chagos deal. The UK has said previously that it won't go ahead without Trump's support. There is an article in the Telegraph giving more details of how Trump came to change his mind. Apparently, a group of former generals wrote to him last week. It makes you wonder why they didn't do that a year ago when the deal was being approved by Trump:

Trump warned by generals that Chagos deal would weaken US

Diego Garcia airbase would be ‘inherently less secure’ under Britain’s pact with Mauritius, defence chiefs said

web.archive.org

 

[motorbiking]

This could be Starmer's equivalent of Brown's Gold sell off.

Maldives have claimed we have no right to give it to Mauritius. Geographically, they have a point.

Its signed but not ratified.

To. be fair to Starmer, he feared a "legally" binding court order would go against the UK, giving us no position to negotiate terms for the base. I can't imagine a worse deal than the one he struck. But the world has rather moved on since then and big countries tend to get away with taking land from small countries.

In the current climate we could have simply said "finders keepers" or rather, we bought it for £3m

Its a terribly embarrassing deal, and Starmer knows it.

 

[MNW67]

This could be Starmer's equivalent of Brown's Gold sell off.

Maldives have claimed we have no right to give it to Mauritius. Geographically, they have a point.

Its signed but not ratified.

To. be fair to Starmer, he feared a "legally" binding court order would go against the UK, giving us no position to negotiate terms for the base. I can't imagine a worse deal than the one he struck. But the world has rather moved on since then and big countries tend to get away with taking land from small countries.

In the current climate we could have simply said "finders keepers" or rather, we bought it for £3m

Its a terribly embarrassing deal, and Starmer knows it.

I was asking whether it will still be ratified if Trump has changed his mind. The UK said previously it would only go ahead with Trump's approval. Is Trump really against it, or was he just having a hissy fit. We need clarity from the old duffer.

 

[ellal]

This could be Starmer's equivalent of Brown's Gold sell off.

Really scrapping the barrel, but then expected...

Maldives have claimed we have no right to give it to Mauritius. Geographically, they have a point.

Geographically neither the UK or the US have any right to be on the islands

And equally the same geographically as the Falklands/Las Malvinas that the UK government was negotiating to sell to/lease back from Argentina

 

[morqthana]

The UK has said previously that it won't go ahead without Trump's support.

It has to do with Trump how, exactly?

 

[motorbiking]

I was asking whether it will still be ratified if Trump has changed his mind. The UK said previously it would only go ahead with Trump's approval. Is Trump really against it, or was he just having a hissy fit. We need clarity from the old duffer.

Its signed but not ratified.

 

[Munroast]

why don't we just give it to the yanks ? could we ?

 

[transam]

Tell them chagos islanders to go and do one imo
Diago Garcia is an important military base

 

[motorbiking]

Really scrapping the barrel, but then expected...


Geographically neither the UK or the US have any right to be on the islands

And equally the same geographically as the Falklands/Las Malvinas that the UK government was negotiating to sell to/lease back from Argentina

and based on that nonsense logic,
the Chanel islands belong to the French
French Polynesia belongs to NZ
The canaries are African and
Denmark has no claim to Greenland.

 

[motorbiking]

Tell them chagos islanders to go and do one imo
Diago Garcia is an important military base

nobody is giving them their home back either way.

 

[MNW67]

Its signed but not ratified.

I know. I have already mentioned that several times over the past few days.

My question is whether we will still go ahead with ratification if Trump has changed his mind. The UK has said previously that it would only go ahead with Trump's approval. Is Trump really against it, or was he just having a hissy fit. We need clarity from the old duffer. If he objects, I think that would be a neat way out. Basically, pass the buck to Trump.

 

[MNW67]

It has to do with Trump how, exactly?

The only reason we held on to the Chagos Islands in the first place was because the US asked us to, so that they could build a base. The Diego Garcia installation is one of their most important strategic assets. That is why the government have said previously that they would not go ahead without Trump's approval.

 

[ellal]

Tell them chagos islanders to go and do one imo
Diago Garcia is an important military base

They did 'do one'...

Well they were forced to 'do one' actually to make way for that base...

Many of them are now living in Crawley...

Where would you suggest they are deported to next?

 

[motorbiking]

I know. I have already mentioned that several times over the past few days.

ask a more precise question then

My question is whether we will still go ahead with ratification if Trump has changed his mind. The UK has said previously that it would only go ahead with Trump's approval. Is Trump really against it, or was he just having a hissy fit. We need clarity from the old duffer. If he objects, I think that would be a neat way out. Basically, pass the buck to Trump.

I think starmer is keen to get on with it and hope time will make the embarrassment fade.