help with wiring in a new light fitting please

[csifan]

Hi - I'm trying to wire in a new light fitting but am confused about the wires...
There is one wire that has a red wire and another wire that has had a green sleeve put on the end. Then I have 2 separate black wires, neither of which has red tape or anything to identify it as the switch live.
I don't have a multimeter to test the wires. I have tried many combinations already, none of which work, and some of which cause the other upstairs lights to work and others not... Please help!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I don't have a multimeter to test the wires.

Then get one.

This looks ideal for a household starter set - multimeter, voltage indicator and dedicated continuity tester, all in a handy case: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/showproduct/115/Junior-Set/

PDF brochure: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/downloadfile/115/beschreibung_1/

All in German, unfortunately, as is the blurb on each product:

Multimeter: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/showproductdata/487/Hexagon_55/

Voltage indicator: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/showproduct/116/2000_α_(alpha)/

Continuity tester: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/showproduct/481/TESTFIX/

but it is sold in the UK - the company is now owned by Fluke, and I guess they haven't got all the websites sorted out yet - contact them (http://www.fluke.co.uk) for info on where to buy.

Right now the English specs are still lurking on the Internet Time Machine from when Beha was an independent company:

http://web.archive.org/web/20060920022629/http://www.beha.com/files_uk/multimeter/93549.pdf


Also see another discussion here: //www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26282 It's a few years old, so specific model number advice may be obsolete (and prices will be higher), but the generic advice is still sound.

 

[ericmark]

In the past I tried to lead people through working out which wire is which using the lamp as a tester. However all it did was cause confusion.
To work out what you have you been to bell out the wires. There is not quick way you have to test each wire in turn.

 

[bernardgreen]

For englsish change the ~~/de_de/~~ to ~~/de_en/~~

http://www.amprobe.eu/de_en/showproductdata/487/Hexagon_55/

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Just tried that.

None of them work.

 

[stillp]

Worked for me BAS. Is your browser still pointing to a cached copy of the pages?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

All of them get me this page: