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As I wrote (8 pages ago, in post #84), my wife is half-Irish, but was born in England and has spent her entire life in England (and never has had the slightest hint of an Irish accent).
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As I wrote (8 pages ago, in post #84), my wife is half-Irish, but was born in England and has spent her entire life in England (and never has had the slightest hint of an Irish accent).
I didn't read the thread - I just never forget anything.You're slow
You must have read some of it
No confusion whatsoever.
I believe my original description still applies, I accept that some of the pins are of a male design and some appear to be famale as they are hollow and go over the mating part, but the left has distinct pins sticking out whereas the metal parts are enclosed in the right.
Accordingly I have no hesitation describing the left as male and therefore the plug and the right as female anf therefore the socket.
I've deliberately shown cable versions to avoid the panel mounted inlet/outlet objections.
The description in the advert is clear enough:
And in this advert it's correctly described as Male to Male in my opinion
Some connectors have identical metal parts in both mating units but the same rule usually applies, ie one part has an exposed contact and the other has an enclosed contact, as an example the EDAC range of connectors.
That said I fully accept there are exceptions where it is difficult to distinguish the difference between the 2 items but they are quite rare and I have already mentioned the audio cables where the extension cables had identical connectors each end with equal numbers of male pins and female holes which plugged together and were totally reversable.
Well yes that is somewhat confusing and fails to explain the 'loose convention' why the direction the audio flows was changed from conventional to: audio flows from the male to the female, and completely fails to mention when XLRs are used for loudspeakers it flows from female to male as was the original standard for audio such as microphones.
It also mentions obsolete several times where such uses are still very much continuing such as the mains version which is still freely on sale and the pic I showed is one of the items I still have in regular use and again those are still on sale.
This part I truly fail to understand.
The article also fails to mention there are 2 different pin layouts for 4 pin and 3 for the 5 pin but does mention 2 versions for 6 pin but there were 3.
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I understand your thinking, but I reckon this is a pretty grey are, since my thinking about 'gender identification' tends to be a little different ....
.... in deciding whether an electrical connector is male or female I tend not to consider 'what is (or is not) 'sticking out' but, rather (and as per the biological origins) what (metal) parts go inside what other (metal) parts. Thinking that way,I would regard the ones you have illustrated as 'hermaphrodites' because, although the protruding (hollow) metal things on the left go inside the hole in the plastic in the right one, the go outside the metal parts of the right one (i.e. those metal parts of the right one 'go inside' of the (hollow & sticking out) bits of the left one.
Not the least because it is clear that different people may think differently, I personally would not us the words 'male' and 'female' in relation to such connectors, because I would not be confident that everyone would understand my meaning.
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Because that is what it is. A socket my friend.
Well yes I can sympathise with that view I will admit that.
It is one of those cases where if easy to define the is unlikely to be a problem but in some cases it is prudent to add some clarification , lots of things in life have that "sometimes" problem (I before E except after C becomes one simple example)
I'm not so sure about the 'free' one but as for the other, I don't think I've ever heard anyone talking about a "panel-mounted plug", have you?
Quite so - sometimes prudent, but sometimes 'essential' ("I went to B&Q to buy a socket")
When (quite late in life) I started thinking about the "I before E...." that had been drummed into us) it seemed that there might well be moire exceptions to, rather than conformities with, that 'rule'
He’s got a good memory like meYou must have read some of it
Yes, but he only needed a couple of days or so of memory in this case, since he was responding to (and quoting) a message I posted in tis thread - so, as I said, although he claimed that he "had not read the thread", he must have read some of it
The automative and towing communities have no problems, Try googling for images of trailer plug, then trailer socket.
Also IEC plug, then IEC socket. There are wide selections of names including, but probably not limited to: inlet, outlet, male, female, plug, socket
Well I've had to edit this as moving on to the second page of IEC socket there are a confusing selection
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I think you are merely illustrating the problems - which can arise both with plugs/sockets and male/female.
I suppose it's really a case of "a picture is worth a thousand words"
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