ICE told to get the eff out

[noseall]

deflective waffle

 

[motorbiking]

He won't. The bloke can't back peddle fast enough.

Makes a mockery of this little nugget though..

Lol.

with estimates

It's nonsense to count non-resident, non-citizen tax payers as illegal immigrants.

I am a US tax payer.

 

[noseall]

Perhaps you can explain how an illegal immigrant with no right to work, pay taxes, acquire health insurance etc. can live, pay bills and become a useful member of society?

Done - like a kipper.

 

[MNW67]

quote it .

The SSA is the Social Security Administration:

the IRS estimates that about 6 million unauthorized immigrants file individual income tax returns each year. Other researchers estimate that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes. For example: The SSA assumes that about half of unauthorized immigrants pay Social Security taxes.

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/110th-congress-2007-2008/reports/12-6-immigration.pdf

 

[noseall]

It's nonsense to count non-resident, non-citizen tax payers as illegal immigrants.

Or even suggest it.

 

[motorbiking]

estimates

The SSA is the Social Security Administration:

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/110th-congress-2007-2008/reports/12-6-immigration.pdf

estimates and almost 20 years old

 

[MNW67]

It's nonsense to count non-resident, non-citizen tax payers as illegal immigrants.

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You keep repeating that point. But nobody is actually doing that in these estimates. That is something you have either misunderstood or invented.

 

[noseall]

estimates and almost 20 years old

2022 / 2023/ 2024 have also been presented in the reports. All income taxes paid by illegal immigrants total in the Billions.

 

[MNW67]

estimates and almost 20 years old

The government has to estimate these figures. Just like GDP and inflation are estimates. An estimate is not the same as a guess. These are the figures that the US government works from. If you think they are wrong, write and tell them!

 

[motorbiking]

The government has to estimate these figures. Just like GDP and inflation are estimates. An estimate is not the same as a guess. These are the figures that the US government works from. If you think they are wrong, write and tell them!

from your link:

Revenues Versus Spending

The available estimates of the budgetary impact of unauthorized immigrants vary greatly in their timing and scope. Most of the studies that include both revenues and costs for multiple programs show that state and local governments spend more on unauthorized immigrants than they collect in revenues from that population.

Probably explains why ICE exist

 

[MNW67]

Do you think the figure might be higher?

A lot of people do. The estimates are all based on 50% of illegal immigrants paying tax. But other research shows that it is more like 75%.

 

[noseall]

You keep repeating that point

Yes but there is no avoiding this...

Perhaps you can explain how an illegal immigrant with no right to work, pay taxes,

Our work here is done. Let him stew.

 

[motorbiking]

Yes but there is no avoiding this...

Our work here is done. Let him stew.

estimates

I particularly like this bit in the links provided:

Most of the studies that include both revenues and costs for multiple programs show that state and local governments spend more on unauthorized immigrants than they collect in revenues from that population.

 

[MNW67]

Our work here is done. Let him stew.

He seems to be moving on.

 

[noseall]

irrelevant waffle