ICE told to get the eff out

[noseall]

It's clear that her actions were an attempt to obstruct or interfere - they have laws against that.

Nonsense. They had no grounds to arrest that woman for obstruction, in her car.

 

[motorbiking]

OK, at least you are trying to answer the question now.

So, when does she try to block the path of the ICE agent(s) with her car. Do you have some evidence. That's all I have been asking for.

Which bit of "you've already dismissed it" don't you understand?

See this opinion:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009021137599025524

 

[noseall]

See this opinion:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009021137599025524

Good old Emily from The Heritage Foundation.

At least Trump lies with his stage make-up on.

 

[motorbiking]

Nonsense. They had no grounds to arrest that woman for obstruction, in her car.

They could have easily popped round her house later and arrested her, they had her plates. She'd still be alive today, unfortunately that didn't happen. It's sad and wrong that she was shot assisting her gobby tw*t of a wife. That doesn't make the shooting unlawful.

 

[noseall]

They could have easily popped round her house later and arrested her, they had her plates. She'd still be alive today, unfortunately that didn't happen. It's sad and wrong that she was shot assisting her gobby tw*t of a wife. That doesn't make the shooting unlawful.

It was the multiple armed masked males attack along with the trying to open her car door along with the reaching into her vehicle and then the three shots at point blank range along with the "effing bítch", that I'm struggling with.

Emily from The Heritage Foundation, seems to have missed those bits.

 

[motorbiking]

It was the multiple armed masked males attack along with the trying to open her car door along with the reaching into her vehicle and then the three shots at point blank range along with the "effing bítch", that I'm struggling with.

Lets break it down:

multiple armed masked males
ICE officers with POLICE on their uniforms. She knew who they were and why they were there. She herself appears to have been there because they were there, she is alleged to have been a member of an anti-ICE acvivist group called Monarca and her self appointed role has been to observe ICE activities. There is no credibility in the argument that she thought she was about to get kidnapped or carjacked, by masked men.

attack along with the trying to open her car door
telling her to stop and trying to get her to do so.

and then the three shots at point blank range
they shot her yes

the "effing bítch"
doesn't really alter anything.

 

[MNW67]

Which bit of "you've already dismissed it" don't you understand?

See this opinion:

You seem to be swerving to a different question which I didn't ask you.

Just to remind you, we were talking about what grounds they had to try to arrest her. You said that she had committed an offence by obstructing them with her car. You said you were going to provide some evidence. But instead you have pointed at the answer to a completely different question.

 

[Highway Man]

Good old Emily from The Heritage Foundation.

At least Trump lies with his stage make-up on.

`Absolutely bang on the mark with that assessment.

 

[Highway Man]

It was the multiple armed masked males attack along with the trying to open her car door along with the reaching into her vehicle and then the three shots at point blank range along with the "effing bítch", that I'm struggling with.

Emily from The Heritage Foundation, seems to have missed those bits.

No she hasn't, she is right and you are wrong,

 

[motorbiking]

You seem to be swerving to a different question which I didn't ask you.

I'm not responsible for your learning.

Just to remind you, we were talking about what grounds they had to try to arrest her.

Probable cause for obstruction of justice

You said that she had committed an offence by obstructing them with her car.

No I said that her actions would give the officer grounds for arrest

You said you were going to provide some evidence

You imaged this.

. But instead you have pointed at the answer to a completely different question.

Start with this:

What was the purpose of her parking her car across the street? Could a reasonable person interpret this as a possible attempt to cause an obstruction? Who was the likely target of that obstruction? Does that give grounds to suspect felony obstruction of justice?

 

[MNW67]

What was the purpose of her parking her car across the street? Could a reasonable person interpret this as a possible attempt to cause an obstruction? Who was the likely target of that obstruction? Does that give grounds to suspect felony obstruction of justice?

The ICE operation in question was taking place about two hundred yards away. After they had wrapped it up, some of their cars drove straight past her. They could do this because the other lane was completely free and there was plenty of room. At no point did she impede anyone from ICE in any way whatsoever.

 

[MNW67]

In case others haven't seen it, there is a video on Facebook showing more of the operation. About two hundred yards down the road from where Renee is parked, some sort of ICE operation is taking place. After they wrap up their operation, some of their cars drive straight past Renee. They could do this because the other lane was completely free and there was plenty of room. It is a one way street with two lanes. At no point did she impede anyone from ICE in any way whatsoever. I thought we were talking about a few yards away when they said she was impeding them. Utterly ridiculous.

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In the 3 minutes leading up to her death, you can see and hear just how peaceful and cooperative Renee Good was not. In the three minutes leading up to her death she chose to block the road with her...

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[noseall]

Lets break it down:

multiple armed masked males
ICE officers with POLICE on their uniforms. She knew who they were and why they were there.

Irrelevant. They masked men have no right to arrest her, enter her vehicle or try to open her car door.

She herself appears to have been there because they were there, she is alleged to have been a member of an anti-ICE acvivist group called Monarca and her self appointed role has been to observe ICE activities. There is no credibility in the argument that she thought she was about to get kidnapped or carjacked, by masked men.

She lives there. They don't.

telling her to stop and trying to get her to do so.

Telling her to stop what exactly?

Telling you say? You don't tell someone anything by reaching into their car window and trying to open their door, other than 'you are being attacked'.

and then the three shots at point blank range
they shot her yes

the "effing bítch"
doesn't really alter anything.

Not now she is dead no. I'm sure he lawyers will replay that misogynistic hatred bit over and over though.

 

[noseall]

Probable cause for obstruction of justice

Nonsense.

 

[Highway Man]

Irrelevant. They masked men have no right to arrest her, enter her vehicle or try to open her car door.

She lives there. They don't.

Telling her to stop what exactly?

Telling you say? You don't tell someone anything by reaching into their car window and trying to open their door, other than 'you are being attacked'.

Not now she is dead no. I'm sure he lawyers will replay that misogynistic hatred bit over and over though.

You are not anywhere near the truth with this one, I would imagine you be the type to think you could do exactly what she was doing then crying over it afterwards. In this country you don't get shot, in the USA you most certainly run that risk. Even running away from the police can get you shot never mind ramming your car into one whilst trying to leave and ignore their orders.