ICE told to get the eff out

MNW67 · 2026-01-19T15:08:24+0000

motorbiking said:
Objective?

Those are the facts. What is your alternative version.

motorbiking · 2026-01-19T15:08:57+0000

You cannot see You wanna come at us? You wanna come at us?

Is American equivalent of "come and have a go".

ellal · 2026-01-19T15:15:42+0000

motorbiking said:
Most people know in America that you do as you are told and Sue after.

Years ago I approached a traffic cop, when ridding the big Sur on a Harley, to ask directions. The first thing he did was step back and put his hand on his gun. I popped my flip lid and said we are British tourists and a bit lost, can you point us in the direction of a motel. I nearly **** myself. He totally relaxed once I spoke. Its totally different out there.

Not possible to sue after you've taken a head shot for no reason!

But you are correct in the way americans often react...

Had an american girlfriend many years ago, and when out and about got pulled over for no reason.
I argued the toss in the usual way and the net result was simply a producer...

But as he said good night, he asked if my girlfriend was ok.
Looked over to the passenger seat and she was curled up with her hands over her head.
She told me later that had I spoken that way in her home country, the sh*t would have hit the fan...

And if I'd been black, very lucky to survive!

If they're happy to live that way, then good luck to them!

motorbiking · 2026-01-19T15:28:28+0000

We share a language, but our culture is completely different.

There is a video of Larry Ellison on Youtube being pulled over by the cops on the island that he owns 98% of, there is no "do you know who I am" boll@x, just courtesy and respect. He's smart enough to know how to interact with the police.

MNW67 · 2026-01-19T15:52:09+0000

motorbiking said:
You cannot see You wanna come at us? You wanna come at us?

Is American equivalent of "come and have a go".

And what was the effect of that on this whole event. Did that escalate the level of the crime. Are you saying that this is what made the agents decide to arrest Renee.

JP_ · 2026-01-19T16:10:52+0000

motorbiking said:
He's smart enough to know how to interact with the police.

Yeah, but the main difference is that the police officer called him sir, asked how he was, and was very polite about it all, thanking him when things were passed etc. A bit different from several officers yelling while pointing guns, and acting like they just pulled over a carload of armed terrorists.

motorbiking · 2026-01-19T16:14:47+0000

JP_ said:
Yeah, but the main difference is that the police officer called him sir, asked how he was, and was very polite about it all, thanking him when things were passed etc. A bit different from several officers yelling while pointing guns, and acting like they just pulled over a carload of armed terrorists.

Becca Good - definitely mouthed off.

Highway Man · 2026-01-19T16:15:03+0000

MNW67 said:
I just want to check what you are saying. We know that the agent who shot Renee pulled up next to her car, got out, and started circling it and videoing her. Presumably, you believe, at this stage, he was going to let Renee leave. But then the wife came back and started teasing him. Are you saying that this action made him change his mind and decide to have Renee arrested instead of letting her leave?

That is probably the way it would have gone, a simple arrest or even told to get lost, Her wife not only agitated the officer but told her to drive off and ignore the agents commands

Highway Man · 2026-01-19T16:16:45+0000

ellal said:
Not possible to sue after you've taken a head shot for no reason!

But you are correct in the way americans often react...

Had an american girlfriend many years ago, and when out and about got pulled over for no reason.
I argued the toss in the usual way and the net result was simply a producer...

But as he said good night, he asked if my girlfriend was ok.
Looked over to the passenger seat and she was curled up with her hands over her head.
She told me later that had I spoken that way in her home country, the sh*t would have hit the fan...

And if I'd been black, very lucky to survive!

If they're happy to live that way, then good luck to them!

Of course none of this happened

JohnD · 2026-01-19T16:19:25+0000

SPLINE said:
The left lives off debt, the right lives within its means.

Pure nonsense.

motorbiking · 2026-01-19T16:23:53+0000

MNW67 said:
And what was the effect of that on this whole event. Did that escalate the level of the crime. Are you saying that this is what made the agents decide to arrest Renee.

what do you think would happen in the UK if you interfered with Police and then started gobbing off? Youtube will help you.

MNW67 · 2026-01-19T16:28:11+0000

Highway Man said:
That is probably the way it would have gone, a simple arrest or even told to get lost, Her wife not only agitated the officer but told her to drive off and ignore the agents commands

The difference is crucial. You say the wife caused an escalation. I am trying to pin down what you mean by that. Was the escalation from letting Renee go to arresting Renee.

Highway Man · 2026-01-19T16:28:30+0000

motorbiking said:
what do you think would happen in the UK if you interfered with Police and then started gobbing off? Youtube will help you.

don't forget parking your car across the road too.

MNW67 · 2026-01-19T16:28:44+0000

motorbiking said:
what do you think would happen in the UK if you interfered with Police and then started gobbing off? Youtube will help you.

Would they arrest my wife for something I said. That seems weird.

Highway Man · 2026-01-19T16:29:30+0000

MNW67 said:
The difference is crucial. You say the wife caused an escalation. I am trying to pin down what you mean by that. Was the escalation from letting Renee go to arresting Renee.

They didn't let her go, she took off in a direct path towards the man with a gun.

ICE told to get the eff out

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