ICE told to get the eff out

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Yeah, but the main difference is that the police officer called him sir, asked how he was, and was very polite about it all, thanking him when things were passed etc. A bit different from several officers yelling while pointing guns, and acting like they just pulled over a carload of armed terrorists.
Becca Good - definitely mouthed off.
 
I just want to check what you are saying. We know that the agent who shot Renee pulled up next to her car, got out, and started circling it and videoing her. Presumably, you believe, at this stage, he was going to let Renee leave. But then the wife came back and started teasing him. Are you saying that this action made him change his mind and decide to have Renee arrested instead of letting her leave?
That is probably the way it would have gone, a simple arrest or even told to get lost, Her wife not only agitated the officer but told her to drive off and ignore the agents commands
 
Not possible to sue after you've taken a head shot for no reason!

But you are correct in the way americans often react...

Had an american girlfriend many years ago, and when out and about got pulled over for no reason.
I argued the toss in the usual way and the net result was simply a producer...

But as he said good night, he asked if my girlfriend was ok.
Looked over to the passenger seat and she was curled up with her hands over her head.
She told me later that had I spoken that way in her home country, the sh*t would have hit the fan...

And if I'd been black, very lucky to survive!

If they're happy to live that way, then good luck to them!
Of course none of this happened
 
And what was the effect of that on this whole event. Did that escalate the level of the crime. Are you saying that this is what made the agents decide to arrest Renee.

what do you think would happen in the UK if you interfered with Police and then started gobbing off? Youtube will help you.
 
That is probably the way it would have gone, a simple arrest or even told to get lost, Her wife not only agitated the officer but told her to drive off and ignore the agents commands

The difference is crucial. You say the wife caused an escalation. I am trying to pin down what you mean by that. Was the escalation from letting Renee go to arresting Renee.
 
The difference is crucial. You say the wife caused an escalation. I am trying to pin down what you mean by that. Was the escalation from letting Renee go to arresting Renee.
They didn't let her go, she took off in a direct path towards the man with a gun.
 
They didn't let her go, she took off in a direct path towards the man with a gun.

I am constantly trying to break down the events, as would happen in a court room. But you keep muddling them all back together again!

We were discussing what happened just before Renee drove forwards. The agent was circling and videoing. Renee was being super friendly. Then the argument is that wife came and 'escalated' the situation. I just want to know what that means. Are you and MBK saying that before the wife's input they were going to let Renee go but, after the wife started mouthing off, they decided to arrest Renee. If not, what was the escalation.
 
Would they arrest my wife for something I said. That seems weird.
If your wife had obstructed them in their duty and you were gobbing off while they were trying to lawfully get her to stop, you'd be arrested.
 
If your wife had obstructed them in their duty and you were gobbing off while they were trying to lawfully get her to stop, you'd be arrested.

You seem to be deliberately swerving there.

I am just after a straightforward answer to the question I have been asking. You said the wife escalated the situation. How did that play out in practice. What did the agents do differently, after the verbals from the wife, that they weren't going to do anyway.
 
Interesting to see you think that is relevant to the death penalty.

Pink triangle?

Or black, like last time?
That is what they were, it makes no odds to their sexual orientation but the description is correct. How would you describe them?
 
I am constantly trying to break down the events, as would happen in a court room. But you keep muddling them all back together again!

We were discussing what happened just before Renee drove forwards. The agent was circling and videoing. Renee was being super friendly. Then the argument is that wife came and 'escalated' the situation. I just want to know what that means. Are you and MBK saying that before the wife's input they were going to let Renee go but, after the wife started mouthing off, they decided to arrest Renee. If not, what was the escalation.
Super friendly? You gotta be kidding
 
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