IFA or Accountants?

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I have some money I want to invest for long term and was told to see at least 4 Independent Financial Advisers (IFA) which I have done but I've got a blinding headache with all their advice and some of them are very pushy for me to invest with them!, I was told this morning it's best to go to a Accountants for best advice, so what is the difference between with IFA and Accountants, I thought accountants was for tax/book keeping :?
Have search the net but still confused.
 
An IFA has some qualifications which mean he is permitted to "give" financial "advice"

Some accountants may be similarly qualified, especially if they deal with the personal affairs of their clients, not just business accounts (many small businessmen like to use the same accountant for both).

My "quotes" are because most of them are on commission and make a living out of persuading their clients to invest in schemes that pay lots of commission. You might as well consult for advice a used-car salesman who calls himself an Independent Transport Advisor. He will never recommend you go by bus, as he makes his living out of selling cars. For this reason I believe you are better off going to a fee-charging advisor who undertakes to rebate any and all commission (initial and trail) to you. Then his advice will not be tainted by his greed for commission.

the "downside" is that he will give you a bill for his time.
the upside is that instead of paying e.g. £10,000 in commission over ten years, which you may not be conscious of, you might pay him £1,000 in a one-off charge instead.

Once you stop thinking that commission is "free" I think you will prefer the fee based approach.

BTW if an investment returns 3% p.a. real growth (after inflation) which is not unusual, a scheme which takes 5% off you in the first year and 1.5% p.a. thereafter will not be able to give you such good returns as a scheme that doesn't. Always find out all the charges and expenses of a scheme you are going into. All other things being equal, pick the one with the lowest charges. Be aware that, in the long run, most schemes perform less well than the index, so don't believe anyone who tells you that their high charges are to enable them to employ top quality fund managers who will outperform all the others. Most of the charges go to enrich the directors and shareholders. So if you are looking at equity investments (shares and most Unit Trusts) there is a lot to be said for putting most of it into a low-cost Tracker fund or general Investment Trust. But don't invest it all in one lump or you may be unlucky and buy when prices are on a spike just before they drop. Dribble it in with monthly installments over a year or so. Be sure to maximise your tax advantages by maximising your pension contributions (to a low-cost scheme) and cash ISA. And be sure to pay off all loans, credit cards and mortgages which are costing you more than the 5% p.a. net of tax that you will get from your Building Society cash deposits.

What sort of product are you thinking of buying? Pension? Life assurance? Savings & Investment?
 
Thanks John, good advice, it's minefield out there, most of The IFA want a commission cost of 5% immediately then approx 1.170% percentage of the fund value per year.

My argument is if I invest say £50,000 the commission charge is £2500

or

£5,000 the commission charge is £250 and both invested the same fund manager, why should the £50,000 commission cost more? Surely it doesn't cost any more to set it up?
JohnD said:
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What sort of product are you thinking of buying? Pension? Life assurance? Savings & Investment?

Savings & Investment as I don't need an income from the lump sum. Quite happy to put it away 5-10 yrs and I will look at using all the tax advantage plus the Capital Gain Tax allowance. I'm still learning :!:
 
OK

I suggest you avoid Unit Trusts as they are commission-driven. You can get Investment Trusts which are in many ways similar but do not pay commission and generally have lower management expenses (they are investment companies you buy shares in rather than Units and there are various low-commission scheme management companies around - I use http://www.alliancetrust.co.uk/ which has a fixed £12.50 buying fee regardless of size although they are having a short-term commission free offer for Buy deals. Normally they would charge me £12.50 to invest whether it was £1,000 or £10,000, but this month it is free except for 0.5% Stamp Duty. They have a low-cost pension scheme as well as Equity ISA and ordinary share and unit Trust schemes. You can monitor your plans on the Interweb and place buy or sell orders on the Web too for immediate or price-limit deals. they are owned by an Investment Trust but in their schemes you have no obligation to invest in that company unless you want to. they have no sales staff so there is no commission, most of the plan management is online so low staff costs. they do not make an annual charge, but they charge £1 for each dividend they receive into your account as a handling fee - regardless of size. I like this cost structure. the company has been around since 1873 and is very well established and well known, but is never sold by IFAs as they do not pay commission. It has a Market Cap value of £2,309m compared to the Pru's Market Cap of £16,090m You might wonder why you have never heard of it... I reckon it's all down to not paying commission to salesmen)

Be aware that if you are a Basic rate taxpayer, for every £78 you pay into a pension, your fund receives £100 because they reclaim your income tax. if you are higher rate taxpayer, every £100 into your fund only costs £60 out of your pocket. If you are over age 50 you can draw income and/or a tax-free lump sum if you wish without having to buy an annuity until you are aged 75 (I have a SIPP with the co mentioned above).

Equity ISAs do not save you basic-rate Income tax; but they are not subject to Capital Gains tax.
 
Thanks for your time John, that's great stuff, have got my money temporary in Barclays e-saving account for the time being as it seem it not straight forward so I won't rush into it, this website interesting to read, specially from the major banks fund losers !! I have been to most of these banks which sell the same product only with Norwich Union and Legal & General which are charging 5.7% !

http://www.moneyspider.com/index.asp

Just spoken to someone this morning who used to work for the Pru and said some of the IFA set up on their own after they have been sacked for their poor perfomance record :!:
 
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