Installing a mutlifuel woodburning stove

[littlemo]

Please could someone help us through this minefield!

We have had advice from 3 different companies now and each one discredits the information and adviced offered by the previous one.

We live in a 3 bed eot Victorian property.
We have a sound chimney/chamber and the original pots are in place.
We need a 8-9KW multifuel woodburner as we want to overnight burn with coal/anthracite.
We live in a smoke controlled area.
We have a budget of approx £1500

One company recommended an Aarrow Ecoburn 9 but the most recent company said its no good due to the smokeless area.
When I said we'd been quoted £900 for a liner installation, one said it wouldn't last more than 5 years.
Am now confused as hell and running out of time before everyone gets booked up before xmas.

Is there anyone out there who can give us honest and expert advice rather than a load of discrediting sales tactics!!

Thank you in advance,

Littlemo x

 

[Richard C]

Stove shops do offer a complete service but will charge you a fortune into the bargain. Is that £1500 just for the stove or total instal? You won’t do the lot for that! I bought my 8Kw multi-fuel Stovax Riva on-line, saving a fortune. I have no such restrictions here but as far as I’m aware, smokeless is to do with the fuel you burn not the stove you install. I got a list of local independent HETAS installers from their website & invited 3 around to discus the installation & quote as I wanted to do my own preparation & building work, vent etc. The guy who do the work did a first class job, supplied & fitted an insulated liner, pot cap, fitted, tested & certified the stove & provided the approved rating plate all in one (longish) day. That was nearly 4 years ago, installation cost was just under £900.

You might find some of the stuff below useful.

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As this comes up so often, I’ve put together this generic post; read the links but not all may apply to you.

You can DIY a stove install but you need to understand the Building Regs (which changed in October 2010), submit a Building Notice & pay a fee. Your LABC will inspect &, assuming everything is OK, issue a compliance certificate; the BI may want to witness smoke & spillage tests. No compliance certificate may lead to difficulties when you come to sell your property; if cannot produce a compliance certificate in the event of a problem, your insurance company may invalidate your policy & reject any claim.

Lots of archive threads on this, & other things you have to watch out for, here a few links for you to read:
http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/stove_building_regulations.html
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADJ_2010.pdf
http://www.hetas.co.uk/public/certificates.html
http://www.solidfuel.co.uk/pdfs/buidling_regs_consumer leaflet.pdf
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=183614
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=211524
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=242738
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=224751

& some more sobering just in case you think it’s all a load of old tosh:
http://www.solidfuel.co.uk/main_pages/news.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wood-burning-stove-leaks-carbon-monoxide.html
http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/warning_over_heaters_after_norfolk_couple_s_death_1_811099

Also get at least 3 quotes from local independent HETAS installers:
http://www.hetas.co.uk/nearest_member

You might be pleasantly surprised & you should ask yourself if you really want all the hassle & risk getting it wrong; climbing onto the roof with an 8M stainless steel snake on your back is not for the feint hearted!

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[TheOriginalTonkaToy]

I've just fitted a Firefox 5kW stove and I'm burning anthracite on it - it stays in all night with no problems whatsoever.

I bought the liner online from a company called Fluesupplies and 7m of 904/904 stainless liner (25 year guarantee), 1m of flue pipe and a collar came in at just over £400 - they threw in the flex/flue pipe coupler, the suspending cowl, a nosecone and a tube of clear high temp silicon for free. A register plate to seal the flue cost £60ish - we got it made by a local engineering place out of 3mm steel plate.

Fitting the liner was easy but it's tricky balancing everything on a roof ladder - the suspending cowl removes the need to remove the pot and cement in a top bracket and closure plate. It's not difficult to install the rest as long as you take your time and go carefully.

Firefox stoves are fairly cheap and perform well - they do higher output ones too.

I should add that I'm in Scotland and don't have to worry about HETAS installers, Part J or certification.

Don't forget to buy a decent carbon monoxide alarm.