Ip65 bathroom lights advice

[stevenaive]

My lights are looking rusty so I thought I’d replace them. Only the light above the shower looks fire rated, the other 5 not.
Could you look at the wiring and let me know if anything looks beyond a DiY install? Thanks.

Shower:

The others:

 

[EFLImpudence]

My lights are looking rusty so I thought I’d replace them. Only the light above the shower looks fire rated, the other 5 not.

Ok. Unless it is another property above, fire-rated is not required.

Could you look at the wiring and let me know if anything looks beyond a DiY install?

As you are asking, then - possibly.

 

[stevenaive]

Ok. Unless it is another property above, fire-rated is not required.


As you are asking, then - possibly.

Thanks, no there's just roof space above.
There is some loose insulation present though, and I think some of the lights are pretty tightly packed in by it, which is a concern.

 

[SFK]

These might be useful to make your job easier (and better than the tape they used before).
https://www.toolstation.com/greenbrook-lighting-connector/p79534
Put one side of these onto the two cables in your ceiling to join them together.
On the other side put a short length of cable to your new light unit (easier to do as you can do it on kitchen table).
Then plug two halves together.

Also suggest you get 240V light units (remove and throw away all the 'transformers').

SFK

 

[EFLImpudence]

There is some loose insulation present though, and I think some of the lights are pretty tightly packed in by it, which is a concern.

It is. The instructions on the new lights will state the clearance necessary and also if they are suitable for bathrooms.

Just get 240V ones. There is no point in bothering with a transformer.

 

[SFK]

Also, What is your hole diameter and how much space above??

Quick look at Screwfix and toolstation (other suppliers out there) has this with an "overall height of 58mm":
https://www.screwfix.com/p/aurora-x7-fixed-fire-rated-led-downlight-white-7w-580lm/855pg

https://www.toolstation.com/aurora-x7-fixed-7w-dimmable-fire-rated-ip65-led-downlight/p34173

It needs a hole of 65 to 70mm.

(Sorry mis-read your lack of space - noted that hight not issue - overpacking of insulation is).
Its manual is here: https://ulmysds.com/Admin/ViewDocum...5391-43e5-acb6-17d0cf803dcb&primaryReportId=0


Sfk

 

[stevenaive]

Very good info, thanks. I was wondering about the transformer on the shower light.
I've had a dig around the loose insulation and it looks like it can be shifted away from the light units.

Off to screwfix!

Oh, will the aurora lights still require the connector block that you mentioned earlier?

 

[SFK]

Off to screwfix

As before - I do recommend these (link for Screwfix as I only provided toolstation before)
https://www.screwfix.com/p/greenbrook-20a-3-way-lighting-connector-2-pack/2834r (for 2)

https://www.toolstation.com/greenbrook-lighting-connector/p79534

 

[stevenaive]

Well I managed to get them done. Only one is lighting up so I'd better rip them all back out tomorrow. Should have bought that connecter....

 

[SFK]

better rip them all back out

Not all, start with the one that is lit, as there is a 50/50 chance that the cable leaving it is the issue.

 

[stevenaive]

Not all, start with the one that is lit, as there is a 50/50 chance that the cable leaving it is the issue.

Oh good, that will hopefully save me some bother. Fingers crossed.

 

[Taylortwocities]

You will have one transformer per light. Did you remove all of them?

which new down lights did you choose?

 

[stevenaive]

You will have one transformer per light. Did you remove all of them?

which new down lights did you choose?

There was only one transformer, on the light above the shower. I removed it.
Ended up buying these:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/luceco-ftype-fixed-fire-rated-led-led-downlight-white-6w-600lm/7046t

 

[winston1]

There was only one transformer, on the light above the shower. I removed it.
Ended up buying these:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/luceco-ftype-fixed-fire-rated-led-led-downlight-white-6w-600lm/7046t

Bad move. When one fails you will not be able to find a matching replacement. Much better to get fittings with replaceable GU10 lamps.

 

[stevenaive]

Bad move. When one fails you will not be able to find a matching replacement. Much better to get fittings with replaceable GU10 lamps.

I'll be long gone by the time these bad boys fail.
The suspect light was indeed the only one working, great advice from all.
Thanks!