Iran

[Highway Man]

Netanyahu has said Israel doesn't want a 2 state solution either.

It is and always has been an impossible war.

 

[fillyboy]

I hate anyone intent on destroying Israel.

Why?

Because I lived there for a year, in the North mainly and I grew to know them and respect their struggle. Shortly after I arrived I witnessed the Hercules aircraft do a 'fly by' at Tel aviv just after the Entebbe mission. I met people who lost family when the entire Israeli Olympic squad was massacred in Munich. I met people who's fathers patrolled the Golans at night on horseback armed with no more than an M1 carbine. I met people whose parents had died in gas chambers. I met people who were committed to serving in the IDF in defence of their country for a huge part of their life as both conscript and reserves.
I saw the occasional rocket fly over and I saw the aftermath of suicide bombers on Tel Aviv buses, I saw a race of people entirely focused on an existential battle to survive whilst surrounded by hostile actors. I saw a race of people who could turn arid desert wasteland into an agricultural paradise and thrive on it's produce.

I met a race of people who appear to be universally hated, they accept it, they can't understand why, nor can I, they just carry on defending themselves, and always will.

 

[Vinty]

Your politeness is endearing.

You are utterly deluded if you think many on here hate Jews. We do not.

As I and others on here repeatedly tell you, we hate the actions of Israel, the killing of innocent Palestinians. Men, women, children and babies who have absolutely nothing to do with Hamas.
You know how we feel.

This is not hating of Jews.

And well you know it.

It is not anti-Semitic to be critical of how Netanyahu has treated and is treating innocent Palestinian people and to rise up against it.

And well you know it.

Smearing someone as anti semitic because they criticise Israels behavior in Gaza is straight from the Pro Israel supporters playbook.
As far as I know killing innocent people isn't a core tenet of Judiasm.

 

[fillyboy]

Netanyahu has said Israel doesn't want a 2 state solution either.

They agreed to it in 1947 and they agreed to it twice in the build up to the Oslo Accords. The Palestinians rejected it on all those occasions on the basis they would only accept one state, one state without any jews in it.

 

[denso13]

You don't believe that surely. Do you know how difficult it is to kill someone? No soldier could shoot a child and live with themselves.

Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children

Children lying injured in Gaza were picked out and shot by quadcopters, a senior doctor tells MPs.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[denso13]

Because I lived there for a year, in the North mainly and I grew to know them and respect their struggle. Shortly after I arrived I witnessed the Hercules aircraft do a 'fly by' at Tel aviv just after the Entebbe mission. I met people who lost family when the entire Israeli Olympic squad was massacred in Munich. I met people who's fathers patrolled the Golans at night on horseback armed with no more than an M1 carbine. I met people whose parents had died in gas chambers. I met people who were committed to serving in the IDF in defence of their country for a huge part of their life as both conscript and reserves.
I saw the occasional rocket fly over and I saw the aftermath of suicide bombers on Tel Aviv buses, I saw a race of people entirely focused on an existential battle to survive whilst surrounded by hostile actors. I saw a race of people who could turn arid desert wasteland into an agricultural paradise and thrive on it's produce.

I met a race of people who appear to be universally hated, they accept it, they can't understand why, nor can I, they just carry on defending themselves, and always will.

I think you have said you don't agree with the land grabs in the West Bank? There surely must also have been times with the reports of civilians being killed in Gaza that you questioned it. Just once maybe?

Wipe out Hamas, that would be good. But there must have been a better way.

 

[securespark]

You don't believe that surely. Do you know how difficult it is to kill someone? No soldier could shoot a child and live with themselves.

 

[Highway Man]

I do not accept that any sniper could put a child in his scope and kill that child on purpose unless the child was about to shoot someone. I know snipers and I also know how they tick. A child does not give them any satisfaction.

 

[fillyboy]

Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children

Children lying injured in Gaza were picked out and shot by quadcopters, a senior doctor tells MPs.

www.bbc.co.uk

Wasn't he thrown out of the NHS?

 

[denso13]

Wasn't he thrown out of the NHS?

The IDF are everywhere...

 

[Highway Man]

The IDF are everywhere...

You said sniper? that link was a drone kill and more likely a child got shot by pure accident being near a target. That is not a sniper kill.

 

[fillyboy]

Wipe out Hamas, that would be good. But there must have been a better way.

Sadly, not when they place themselves in schools and hospitals or generally among civilians.

 

[denso13]

I do not accept that any sniper could put a child in his scope and kill that child on purpose unless the child was about to shoot someone. I know snipers and I also know how they tick. A child does not give them any satisfaction.

Shot in the head: American doctors bear witness to the atrocities committed by the IDF against Gaza's children - AOAV

Based on testimony from American doctors aired on This American Life, consistent accounts of children in Gaza being shot in the head and chest were detailed, raising urgent questions about Israeli conduct, U.S. complicity, and the absence of accountability.

aoav.org.uk

 

[denso13]

Sadly, not when they place themselves in schools and hospitals or generally among civilians.

So nothing they could have done differently? Why doesn't that surprise me.

 

[Notch7]

Israel have been bombing the worlds largest gas field.

So gas wholesale gas prices will probably go up

Which will benefit Russia