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[Richardp]

whats this all about then? why did the skipper of hms cornwall allow them to be taken and what a perfect situation for the yanks to gve them a taste of cold steel. they have got weapons of mass distruction so more of an excuse than the invasion of Iraq.
is there someting afoot?

 

[empip]

Ahoy there !
Tell you what .... Something is no longer afloat !

I would imagine Cornwall could have muscled her way between their boats ... If she had the legal/actual sea room to do so .. On the edge of Iranian waters, playing brinkmanship matey !

Now just imagine if old Nelson was Commanding he'd would have given 'em Eyeran ...

Some say the Yanks have recently been greasing silo lids - We would too - if we could afford them !

 

[tim west]

agree with Richard P there's something really fishy going on, bush knows he can't sway the hard line stance of Iran over their nuclear aspirations so could this be a ploy for an excuse to start a bombing campaign of iran now?

 

[empip]

Isn't subtle enough is it?
I mean the Iranians have done this before... Not a new ploy.

Oil prices leap on Gulf incident

That's more like it, they are all into this together -- They play we pay.

 

[tim west]

Isn't subtle enough is it?

I suppose the same could have been said about the motives to bomb Iraq yet it went ahead.

 

[empip]

A tidbit ....

...How can you tell which waters you are in?
It is highly complex. A commission is meant to meet to lay down the median line down the Shatt al-Arab and agree where the various lines are. So we have the line we believe is the correct one. We then make allowance the other side of it and make sure our craft operate well clear of that. ...

There you go, no one agrees about demarkation lines so each works to his own interpretation ...
If she were not on the edge and unsure, Cornwall would have acted... As it was she did SFA... And her skipper will have to live with that, hasn't happened to many of HMS.

 

[Richardp]

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=82&pid=&sid=1096028&page=2

 

[empip]

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=82&pid=&sid=1096028&page=2

There we go cap'n ... There is nowt but shifting sands, the Arab understands, the infidel does not.

...The Britons were seized in an area where the boundaries of Iraqi and Iranian waters have long been disputed. A 1975 treaty set the center of the Shatt al-Arab _ the 125-mile-long channel known in Iran as the Arvand River _ as the border...

 

[Moz]

Royal Navy .......what navy ..lol

last report I read we got an aircraft carrier a destroyer an two dingies
lol

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Royal Navy

b'liar has done what all the other nations have tried to do with the royal navy in history an destroyed it ..lol

regarding the hostages I bet the diplomats are doing deals as we type ...

btw poor old saddam tried this hostage tactic , an look what happened to him ,lol..lol

 

[Richardp]

Hello Moz me old darling! you've been put through the ringer, I won't say more cos its too big but .. ''man hugs''

 

[Moz]

yep .....

but as you predicted the ginger one in the carriebean didnt you ....whats them lottery numbers next week
hope you an yours are fit an well ?

 

[DennisLS]

empip wrote

How can you tell which waters you are in?

Ever heard of sattelites shipmate ?

 

[Moz]

DennisLS

Ever heard of sattelites shipmate


Try telling that to the brave 15 ship mates getting the *Jack Bauer* treatment now ....

we must support our Navy ,
even if b'Liar has sent them into Iranian waters for his Boss Bush for another war ,
as the yanks are pulling out of Iraq soon , (after making a sh*thole /terrorist haven )
the Sun /scum will applaud the Iranians actions to stir up more anti mussie press here ..
new scum advert ..
dont just hate Iraqis , Sun Readers (*white van man*) NOW hate all Darkies ......SUN OFFISHIAL... YEEEEAH !,

*with a page 3 bimbo in the advert , showing everything but nips *

 

[empip]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6491581.stm

Tis the dotted lines which matter, are we reading from the same .. sheet?
Who decides upon the sheet? Is the one used in dispute?

Or are we using the AA guide to the gulf 1975?

More questions than answers... Simple it isn't, is anything simple in that region?

 

[tim west]

More questions than answers... Simple it isn't, is anything simple in that region?

perhaps those oil platforms are the answer?