Is this notifiable work ?

[B1N9S]

Do I need to tell LABC if I am:

Adding a new soil pipe from a new en suite to an existing drainage system ?

Or more to the point !! What plumbing work (disregarding heating) IS notifiable ??

I am fitting a brand new en suite and want to know where I stand with LABC. I am now being told that a toilet is essential and MUST be added to the room, by the one I promised to love honour AND OBEY !!!! I thought it is probably notifiable work ??

 

[Redhotferrari]

I am afraid to say, Yes it is notifiable, they will want to inspect anything to do with waste and drainage, not to bothered about the hot and cold side of the plumbing though.

You will also need extractor fans etc on the electrical side, all which needs to be carrried out by a qualified electrictrician and one that can sign off his work, they will require a certificate from the spark before signing off the work.

Best get them in right at the start adn talk through the project to make sure you are both on the same wave length as to where things are going etc. They will want a second visit when the drainage and waste pipes are in, and then a completion visit to sign off.

Cost for BC notice will depend on overall cost of the work involved as it goes up in stages.

Good luck

 

[bengasman]

...You will also need extractor fans etc on the electrical side,

Only under certain circumstances.

all which needs to be carrried out by a qualified electrictrician and one that can sign off his work, they will require a certificate from the spark before signing off the work.

Nonsense. Perfectly legal to diy that and include it in the notifiable work.
Maybe not clever, but legal.

 

[Agile]

I thought that all new electrical work in a bathroom has to be done by a qualified electrician who can self certify ?

 

[bengasman]

Building control can certify all work afaik; they certainly do electrical.

 

[Agile]

They only can if the officer is qualified or they bring in someone but then they CHARGE.

I was invited to a lecture/discussion a few years ago by the Ealing North SBCO. He had taken the electrical qualifications beacuse he wanted to rewire his own house and knew it would be useful for his work.

He said pretty much what applies to gas. Only the actual installer can do an installationn cert but after that only a periodic inspection certificate can be done and they have to accept that by default.

My understanding is that, like gas, its illegal for an unqualified person to fit new electrical items in kitchens or bathrooms as well as all consumer units.

Tony

 

[Richard C]

...You will also need extractor fans etc on the electrical side,

Only under certain circumstances.

What are the “certain circumstances” that a new en-suite or a bathroom not require forced ventillation?

all which needs to be carrried out by a qualified electrictrician and one that can sign off his work, they will require a certificate from the spark before signing off the work.

Nonsense. Perfectly legal to diy that and include it in the notifiable work.
Maybe not clever, but legal.

You can DIY as long as you notify & jump through several hoops but look at what’s involved & ask yourself is it really worth it for fan/lights/ shaver socket in an en-suite & £100 or so! Many LABC’s are still not interested & won’t do what they are supposed to do as far as small DIY electrical install is concerned. As far as I understand (like gas work) it’s not illegal to DIY, it’s only illegal if you do the work for a 3rd party & charge; but it won’t do your house insurance much good in the event of a problem!

For the OP; you also need to be aware that any stud wall between the bog & another habitable room must be sound insulated & there are the standard regs regarding length of waste runs, falls, connections & access in the event blockage you need to be concerned with but don’t worry too much about it, the regs & even inspections are not onerous.

 

[bengasman]

What are the “certain circumstances” that a new en-suite or a bathroom not require forced ventillation?

The same as any bathroom.

all which needs to be carrried out by a qualified electrictrician and one that can sign off his work, they will require a certificate from the spark before signing off the work.

Nonsense. Perfectly legal to diy that and include it in the notifiable work.
Maybe not clever, but legal.

You can DIY as long as you notify & jump through several hoops but look at what’s involved & ask yourself is it really worth it ....

Bearirng in mind that the project will have to be inspected any way...........

As far as I understand (like gas work) it’s not illegal to DIY, it’s only illegal if you do the work for a 3rd party & charge

You do not understand it right; leccie is totally different from gas.
You do not have to be registered to work on leccie for gain.

 

[Richard C]

The same as any bathroom.

I don’t understand your what you mean by "the same as any bathroom": Up to a point, renovations can maintain the “status quo” (seeing them in June ) & you don’t need to provide any as long as you don’t make things any worse than they were before; but not really a good idea. As far as I’m aware, any “new” bathroom, en suite, bog, kitchen or utility room must have forced ventilation in addition to any windows but the extraction rate you need varies depending on the room.

You do not understand it right; leccie is totally different from gas.
You do not have to be registered to work on leccie for gain.

You can rest assured I will check it out but it’s not as I understand it; where is BAS when you need him

 

[B1N9S]

Wow, thats quite a lot to get through. Thanks gents.

Not really fussed about the electrics, I am competent and qualified for Inspection and Test myself and am fully aware of the law surrounding this.

I was just unsure on the plumbing and drainage !!!

Cheers to all that replied.

 

[B1N9S]

My understanding is that, like gas, its illegal for an unqualified person to fit new electrical items in kitchens or bathrooms as well as all consumer units.

Tony

The term "unqualified" is not entirely correct, but the statement is. The term "UNREGISTERED person" would be better.

You need to be Part P registered to carry out the work. A 'Qualified' spark shouldn't be doing it, if he aint part P registered.

Same as gas, you can be a 'qualified' fitter, but if your not gas safe registered you can't do domestic work.

As it happens, I AM a 'qualified' person, which simply means, I am electrically competent with relevant experience !!! But I aint Part P, so obviously, I will be paying for a man to come in and let me pay him for doing a complete T&I of the whole house.

 

[snb]

Any work which is notifiable needs to either have a building submission before work starts or have a suitably qualified and Part 'P' registered installer carry out the work for electrical works who will then self certificate. ( bathrooms are notifiable!)

There are a lot of electricians who commission electrical work but this is not allowed. The only time it is is when they are carrying out inspection work on behalf of building control.

 

[dreadnoughtheating]

FWIW.
As a member of the APHC (Association of Plumbing and Heating Contractors) thro' their Approved Competency Scheme, among other things I can notify is installations of new Bathrooms/Soil pipes etc.

I also have to sign up to their customer charter, offer/honour their warranty scheme etc.

AND, no one, but no one is interested.

DH