J D Vance. Munich speech.

This will surely result in escalation at some point no?
We have 2 choices:

defeat Putin now

or

be weak and let Putin keep pushing, which if we let will mean a much bigger war later on
 
The Greens wanted to run it down more, imagine if that lot of tree-hugging idiots had gained power!

As for those who support UK doing away with our nuclear deterrent, I'm not hearing much from them on the telly box still supporting this aim.
We are not in a good spot on the military personnel front. I am not finding it amusing, it is so bad they are doing away with the way in which they sign people up and switching to some digital shoite to make some more money out of it.

Clueless.
 
We have 2 choices:

defeat Putin now

or

be weak and let Putin keep pushing, which if we let will mean a much bigger war later on
No, because going to war with Putin isn't going to war with just Putin is it. There is Iran and China. And N Korea.
 
We have 2 choices:

defeat Putin now

or

be weak and let Putin keep pushing, which if we let will mean a much bigger war later on
Could also be somewhere in between.

Not necessarily defeat him, but stop him going further would hurt him enough to give grounds for a decent peacetalk
 
Trump desperately needs some good headlines like Ukraine.........because domestically Trump is not doing great:


US consumer inflation increases at fastest pace in nearly 1-1/2 years in January​

  • Consumer prices increase 0.5% in January
  • Shelter, food, gasoline lead broad rise in prices
  • Consumer price index rises 3.0% year-on-year
  • Core CPI gains 0.4%; advances 3.3% year-on-yea

And then Musks destruction of government is causing job losses in Red states

Trump’s cuts hit red states, triggering GOP pushback​


 
No, because going to war with Putin isn't going to war with just Putin is it. There is Iran and China. And N Korea.
If Putin is not stopped now he will just start up again later on

you seem to think capitulating to Putin now means its over forever...............its not, it just stores up trouble for the future

your argument is false anyway, China doesnt support Russia, Iran is an ally but Ukraine is not in the saem region, its not that interested

North Korea is just a weak small country
 
If Putin is not stopped now he will just start up again later on

you seem to think capitulating to Putin now means its over forever...............its not, it just stores up trouble for the future

your argument is false anyway, China doesnt support Russia, Iran is an ally but Ukraine is not in the saem region, its not that interested

North Korea is just a weak small country
You seem to think defeating Russia is a walk in the park, if it were surely Ukraine would have done it by now. You wish to prolong the war and naively believe it won't escalate or that these countries aren't already helping Russia even though North Korean troops are already in Ukraine.
 
You seem to think defeating Russia is a walk in the park, if it were surely Ukraine would have done it by now. You wish to prolong the war and naively believe it won't escalate or that these countries aren't already helping Russia even though North Korean troops are already in Ukraine.
Trump could have done a Gaza, "get out or we will give Ukraine everything they need to bring hellfire upon you". But no, he choose to let him win.
 
Trump could have done a Gaza, "get out or we will give Ukraine everything they need to bring hellfire upon you". But no, he choose to let him win.
Iran doesn't have nuclear weapon capabilities as yet or at least that is what is thought, Russia does.
 
Seems like ? The Russians have stated that
A European peace keeping army in the Ukraine is not acceptable them

( Lavrov)

Oh well thats that down the toilet than
 
Seems like ? The Russians have stated that
A European peace keeping army in the Ukraine is not acceptable them

( Lavrov)

Oh well thats that down the toilet than

I think he said NATO, not European.
 
Iran doesn't have nuclear weapon capabilities as yet or at least that is what is thought, Russia does.
Putin has been threatening nuclear since he started Ukraine war

the West cant afford to be scared of it or Poo tin will carry on invading

if Biden had been strong and supplied everything to Ukraine at the beginning Russia wouldnt have been able to dig in and turn it into a war of attrition
 
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