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J D Vance. Munich speech.

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Trump is making the American people worse off.

So he is not great
 
Strong men. Hard times create strong men aka Vance et al

I listened to his interview with Joe Rogan, he rose from ashes pretty much.
An unintelligent person might reach the conclusion that MAGAs are strong men.

Intelligent people can see they are weak bullys

Trump’s senseless capitulation to Putin is a betrayal of Ukraine—and terrible dealmaking​


Trump as a so-called strongman is actually a weak man when it comes to confronting the hostile authoritarians of this world. In just one day, he has made four large, unnecessary and damaging concessions

 
Yes, did you?
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A good summary.....

Ahead of the Munich conference Europe was stunned by news that Trump had held an apparently cordial 90-minute phone call with Putin, thus abruptly ending the West's three-year freeze in talking to the Russian leader that has been in place since the time of the 2022 invasion.
The delegates in Munich are scheduled to focus on the war in Ukraine in a high-profile debate on Saturday.
The fear in Munich amongst European leaders and their delegations is that in Donald Trump's rush to secure a peace deal in Ukraine, Putin will emerge victorious, stronger and planning to seize more parcels of land in Europe.
 
In his interview with Joe Rogan in episode #2221 from last year, Vance talks about how Russia fund the majority of the Green Energy Movement in Europe. That Putin is aware that if Germany and France shut down their coal and nuclear factories, Russia will have them by the balls because Russia wants them to buy Russian natural gas. The extract can be heard around 48:47

Germany has shut down it's nuclear power plants and is opening new gas power plants.

 
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A good summary.....

Ahead of the Munich conference Europe was stunned by news that Trump had held an apparently cordial 90-minute phone call with Putin, thus abruptly ending the West's three-year freeze in talking to the Russian leader that has been in place since the time of the 2022 invasion.
The delegates in Munich are scheduled to focus on the war in Ukraine in a high-profile debate on Saturday.
The fear in Munich amongst European leaders and their delegations is that in Donald Trump's rush to secure a peace deal in Ukraine, Putin will emerge victorious, stronger and planning to seize more parcels of land in Europe.
Far rage blamed russsian aggression on nato and eu “expansion”. What an appeasing surrender monkey tnat bloke is.
 
Intelligent people can easily work out that JD Vances speech was just a distraction.

It was right wing culture wars…..bolox like freedom of speech.

Vances speech contains a ton of lies

the ficko MAGAs on here lap it all up…….why are these people incapable of doing some fact checking

The speech was primarily for the US audience (imo) ??
 
Germany have got into bed with Russia, that should be abundantly clear to everybody by now.
 
Germany have got into bed with Russia, that should be abundantly clear to everybody by now.
I think they were

They've been getting out of that bed for a while

It should be abundantly clear to everybody by now
 
Negative. Over and out.
I can't help it if you can't see it.

I also can't help it if you can't see how Trump has already lost to Pootin over Ukraine.

Selling out Europe too.

Trump wants isolationism. He is getting it faster than I expected
 
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