LAP IP65 Downlights

[CorWic123]

Hi all,

Gone to change the 5 downlights in the bathroom after they no longer work and come across this. Can anyone advise how to wire this into LAP IP65? I can’t locate a shop that sells the version of downlight below so picked up LAP IP65 as best for bathrooms. Might this be a whole new wiring job for a spark to do, or a simple swap job?

Cheers.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I would think the right hand side terminal wires are the wrong way round.

How are the other lights wired?


And the left hand side ones need pushing in farther.
And the earth bare wires need connecting together even if not used.

 

[pete01]

Are they the old or new lights?

The grey sheath should be inside of the fitting like this

on the type in your picture you would have to bring the earth on the outside, not ideal but would be ok.

 

[CorWic123]

I would think the right hand side terminal wires are the wrong way round.

How are the other lights wired?


And the left hand side ones need pushing in farther.
And the earth bare wires need connecting l

Are they the old or new lights?

The grey sheath should be inside of the fitting like this

View attachment 380898

on the type in your picture you would have to bring the earth on the outside, not ideal but would be ok.

The pic is the old lights that I have pulled out. Never seen wiring like that so wasn’t even sure if it was safe to put a new down light in as stands. In this case just sheath the exposed earth and wire as usual then? That should be okay

 

[EFLImpudence]

The pic is the old lights that I have pulled out. Never seen wiring like that so wasn’t even sure if it was safe to put a new down light in as stands.

Can't tell from the internet.

In this case just sheath the exposed earth and wire as usual then? That should be okay

Did these lights used to work?

 

[Murdochcat]

Hi all,

Gone to change the 5 downlights in the bathroom after they no longer work and come across this. Can anyone advise how to wire this into LAP IP65? I can’t locate a shop that sells the version of downlight below so picked up LAP IP65 as best for bathrooms. Might this be a whole new wiring job for a spark to do, or a simple swap job?

Cheers.


View attachment 380892

Is that the old light and how you found it?

 

[endecotp]

Might the purson who installed that - without the earths connected nor the strain relief on the cable sheath - have been responsible for other dangerous bodges in your home? If I were you, I’d be looking behind other light fittings etc. soon.

In the photo we can see an ‘N’ for neutral on the left pair of terminals. Can you see one on the right pair?

 

[securespark]

To 123...

I take it those fittings are class II.

I take it they also have a snap on cover with a built-in cable grip,

Bit of a rubbish design not to incorporate provision for termination of more than one CPC.

I would tidy up the cable ends so that the sheaths lie nicely on the serrated area and the conductors are just long enough to terminate in the terminals. Could the CPC of one duck out through one of those holes and back into the other side so that both can be terminated together in the space to the right of the right hand terminals or the left of the left hand terminals in a block?

 

[CorWic123]

Is that the old light and how you found it?

That’s the old light. All five down lights wired the same

 

[CorWic123]

Might the purson who installed that - without the earths connected nor the strain relief on the cable sheath - have been responsible for other dangerous bodges in your home? If I were you, I’d be looking behind other light fittings etc. soon.

In the photo we can see an ‘N’ for neutral on the left pair of terminals. Can you see one on the right pair?

yeah the old fitting is L N N L which makes sense for the loop in loop out but seeing the state of the wiring wasn’t ideal when I thought it would be a simple swap out job

 

[Taylortwocities]

yeah the old fitting is L N N L

Ah. Now you tell us!
Can we see a picture of the LAP terminals. Not many of us touch LAP products, unless it’s to throw them in the skip.

 

[blup]

These from SF are loop in type, just check they are the right width for the existing aperture

LAP UBERTAS FIXED LED DOWNLIGHTS WHITE 4W 420LM 10 PACK (338RE)​

 

[Murdochcat]

Sealed LED downlightings are the work of the devil as are pretty much all LAP products

How big is the existing hole in the ceiling