Largest nursing strike in NHS history set to start

[danechip]

Largest nursing strike in NHS history set to start

Routine surgery is likely to be disrupted, but life-preserving and urgent care will still be provided.

www.bbc.co.uk

I guess banging pots and pan lids wasn't enough then?

Good luck to them, just don't get sick this Christmas.

They should have started at 40% and come down from there, maybe 25% would be fair...

 

[JohnD]

 

[Notch7]

Watch out for the Right wing media to throw its weight against Mick Lynch and nurses.

The hatred will ramp up massively.

 

[Munroast]

the NHS's service is at an all time low, it is in a total mess, and they think they deserve a pay rise? May be if they got there act together and started to provide an efficient service then may be, But you can't demand more money when you are providing shoddy service.

 

[Notch7]

the NHS's service is at an all time low, it is in a total mess, and they think they deserve a pay rise? May be if they got there act together and started to provide an efficient service then may be, But you can't demand more money when you are providing shoddy service.

But the government arent on strike

 

[Odds]

the NHS's service is at an all time low, it is in a total mess, and they think they deserve a pay rise? May be if they got there act together and started to provide an efficient service then may be, But you can't demand more money when you are providing shoddy service.

You should be happy the UK health system isn't in American hands.

...a lousy appendix that caused a medical emergency. The bill to sort it out, which arrived last week, wasn’t a million dollars but it was heart-stoppingly high. According to our insurance company, the hospital had billed $83,135.08 (£67,000) for the procedure but – lucky us! – we would “only” have to pay about $2,000.
There are various strategies for reducing your medical bill in the US. Paying the balance in one lump sum tends to net you a discount if you demand it. (We got offered $300 off if we paid immediately.) Asking for an itemised bill is another strategy. Weirdly, hospital bills tend to be full of mistakes. Even weirder is that those mistakes always seem to be overcharging rather than undercharging you. Once you get an itemised bill you can argue over the fact that you were, say, charged $500 for an acetaminophen (paracetamol) tablet and, magically, those charges tend to disappear.

op-ed, Arwa Madhawi @TheGuardian.com

The Pandemic has lead to a two year backlog and underfunding, despite the record amounts injected into the NHS, has brought them to the point where medical staff feel there's no other choice but to go on strike.

 

[scbk]

It's a shame that the nhs managers on £100k+ salaries aren't on strike, one day of that would save us a few quid!

 

[Fred Blogs]

the NHS's service is at an all time low, it is in a total mess, and they think they deserve a pay rise? May be if they got there act together and started to provide an efficient service then may be, But you can't demand more money when you are providing shoddy service.

It's clowns like this who don't believe their beloved governments that they voted for are the root cause of the chaos along with middle and top management who don't have a clue.

 

[Bod ...]

This will be the cruelest thing ever done in History

 

[Odds]

This will be the cruelest thing ever done in History

Really?

 

[Bod ...]

Really?

I'm in hospital now. These patients need to be looked after. It's not their fault

 

[Odds]

I'm in hospital now. These patients need to be looked after. It's not their fault

Fair enough, but try to keep a perspective, old stick.

 

[ajohn]

The NHS has been underfunded for some time. A rather long time with medical supply costs increasing at a more rapid rate. drugs and gear etc. A Times article yonks ago in Mrs T's time showed this clearly. She regularly gave them 1/2 what they needed to keep up for rather a long time. Hard to keep up in some ways as costs have to be covered via taxation. Not a good way of getting elected. Problems started earlier really but understandable. Too many people with minor problems that can be treated but costs have to figure. Eventually it was noticed that a lot of the gear being used should have been thrown away. It appears there has been some improvements in that area but when London's Nightingale was set up out came some ventilators that no doc would want to use. NICE came up with a treatment protocol that meant that some will not have been given a chance to survive as they probably wouldn't have. Understandable again. They can't gear up for a pandemic all of the time.

The other problem is staffing levels. Lots have been leaving. Part of the reason is staffing levels and cost cuts. A report on Wales, vacancies up by 70% recently. Seems the bulk of their money comes from Westminster as well.

So nurses. Too much pressure and then comes pay and feeling they can't treat patients as they should. Given the low end salaries they will most definitely be struggling now. They might be ok part living on the bank of mom and dad. Not that unusual for a lot of young graduates these days. More so now given current increase in the general cost of living including rent. Food inflation is more like 16%. Rents have their interesting aspects causing a lot of under 30's to be living at rent poverty levels - spending too high a proportion of their income on that.

More nurses and docs. They have to be paid for.. 2 choices. Increase taxation or wait for the economy to grow. Make conditions and pay more attractive to get more. Same problem. GP's have decided to improve their conditions all by themselves. Maybe the NHS in general should do the same..

 

[ajohn]

But the government arent on strike

Pity, more things might work out.

 

[Odds]

...one of the most notable interventions has come from Sir Jake Berry, who was chairman of the Conservative party when Liz Truss was prime minister and before that chair of the Northern Research Group, the influential caucus for “red wall” Tory MPs. In an interview with TalkTV last night, Berry said the government should offer the nurses a better deal. He said:
"The government is going to have to improve its offer. The nursing union itself is asking for 19%. That does not seem like a realistic figure to people working in the private sector, to people working in other parts of our public sector.
They’ve described it themselves as a negotiating position. And we all know how this works. They ask for 19%, the government offers them 3 or 4, or whatever it is, and they’re going to meet somewhere in the middle. We need to find a way, as a government, and the union too, to get to that centre point, that point of agreement, straight away. Both the government and the nurses’ union need to come up together [with] a compromise position straight away. And that has to involve the government increasing its offer."

Wasn't the barristers strike settled at 15% earlier this year?
Are NHS staff worth less?