Lighting a room in the LED age?

[Harry Bloomfield]

How many insects have died in them over that period?

And on a much more serious note, are you noticing a year-on-year decline in numbers?

Since the move to much cooler/colder running LED lamps, I have yet to see any insects frazzled by the heat from a lamp. In addition to which, the only door we have open during the daylight hours, is fitted with a insect screen, we rarely get flying insects, indoors anyway.

 

[JohnW2]

Since the move to much cooler/colder running LED lamps, I have yet to see any insects frazzled by the heat from a lamp.

As I've said, we certainly get plenty of dead insects (primary moths) accumulating in our 'uplighters', even with LEDs in them. Although the envelopes of LEDs don't get very hot, the bases can.

In addition to which, the only door we have open during the daylight hours, is fitted with a insect screen, we rarely get flying insects, indoors anyway.

You obviously don't have a 'window-opening' wife like mine It's difficult to even persuade her to close them after sunset - which is, of course, when the moths and other insects tend to come in (into the 'light').

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

You obviously don't have a 'window-opening' wife like mine It's difficult to even persuade her to close them after sunset - which is, of course, when the moths and other insects tend to come in (into the 'light').

No... We vent the house, to cool it down - by opening windows after lights have been turned off. They then remain closed during daylight.

 

[JohnW2]

No... We vent the house, to cool it down - by opening windows after lights have been turned off. They then remain closed during daylight.

Fair enough. The main problem exists when there is no daylight but the indoor lights have not been turned off. I've explained this countless times to SHWBO, but .....

 

[morqthana]

SHWBO,

She who will be obstinate?

I remember during the pandemic we had windows open 24x7 for about 18 months.

 

[JohnW2]

She who will be obstinate?

Well, that as well, although what I typed was actually/obviously a typo

I remember during the pandemic we had windows open 24x7 for about 18 months.

You (or someone) must have been reasonably confident that the atmosphere in your locality was not too Covid-ridden !!

 

[morqthana]

Ventilation to reduce the spread of respiratory infections, including COVID-19

Guidance on the ventilation of indoor spaces to reduce the spread of respiratory infections, including coronavirus (COVID-19).

www.gov.uk

 

[JohnW2]

Ventilation to reduce the spread of respiratory infections, including COVID-19

Guidance on the ventilation of indoor spaces to reduce the spread of respiratory infections, including coronavirus (COVID-19).

www.gov.uk

Yes, but that "guidance on the ventilation of indoor spaces to reduce the spread of respiratory viruses, including Covid-19" obviously related to spread between occupants of the indoor space. If there were only two occupants, and particularly if neither were ever exposed to people outside of that space, then the risk of such 'spread' would have been minimal, perhaps even less than the risk of virus particles entering the house through the open windows?

 

[morqthana]

Since the move to much cooler/colder running LED lamps, I have yet to see any insects frazzled by the heat from a lamp.

They don't have to be frazzled by a hot lamp to die in a light fitting.

 

[morqthana]

Yes, but that "guidance on the ventilation of indoor spaces to reduce the spread of respiratory viruses, including Covid-19" obviously related to spread between occupants of the indoor space. If there were only two occupants, and particularly if neither were ever exposed to people outside of that space, then the risk of such 'spread' would have been minimal, perhaps even less than the risk of virus particles entering the house through the open windows?

There were 3, and one was in and out all the time working in a supermarket.

 

[JohnW2]

There were 3, and one was in and out all the time working in a supermarket.

Fair enough. Mind you, if the same 'third' (and 'high risk') person was there every day, I'm not at all sure that any amount of ventilation would have significantly reduced the risk of the other two being infected if he/she had acquired the infection at the supermarket.

 

[morqthana]

We will never know.

Just as we will never know if it was worth wiping down all touchable hard surfaces with a dilute bleach solution first thing every morning.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

They don't have to be frazzled by a hot lamp to die in a light fitting.

True, but they might suffer heat exhaustion

 

[JohnW2]

We will never know.

Very true.

Just as we will never know if it was worth wiping down all touchable hard surfaces with a dilute bleach solution first thing every morning.

Same here. We were pretty paranoid about 'wiping things', particularly things which were 'delivered',and we did avoid infection until long after the main phase of the pandemic - but we'll never know whether or not things would be different if we had not done any of that 'wiping'.

Infection by that sort of process was certainly possible. At the height of the pandemic (during one of the ''lockdowns'), all four members of one of my daughter's families contracted Covid-19, at a time when none of them had been out of the house for at least a couple of weeks, and the only reasonable credible source of the infection was a takeaway that was delivered to them.

Having said that, infection was certainly unpredictable. We know of several couples in which one suffered from Covid infection but the other didn't, despite living in the same house and sleeping in the same bed etc.

 

[EFLImpudence]

We will never know.

I think we do.