lights / bonding in bathroom

ban-all-sheds said:
Imagine an old-fashioned tin bath, that you fill with hot water from kettles and pans, and empty by baling it out with buckets until it's possible to pick it up and carry it outside.

Is it an extraneous-conductive-part?

If you were going to use it, in front of the fire in the back room, would you feel more or less safe if there were wires connecting it to the cpcs of the lighting and socket circuits, and why?
ban-all-sheds said:
Old fashioned tin bath in front of the fire. Would you connect cables from it to the cpcs of the circuits in the room?
So do either of you have an answer?
 
i have a tin cup and sometimes i like to have a nice cup of hot chocolate whilst i take a bath. do i need to supplementary bond my cup?
 
sijaysee said:
well surely the bath wouldnt need cross bonding if it was in the lounge ?
Well, what makes a room a bathroom is having a bath in it....

So if you put this bath in the lounge and use it, you don't think it needs bonding.

What if you put it in another room? If your answer is different, why?


sijaysee said:
i have a tin cup and sometimes i like to have a nice cup of hot chocolate whilst i take a bath. do i need to supplementary bond my cup?
Is it an extraneous-conductive-part?
 
I think I'd bond the bath, the taps are going to be bonded and it would seem sensible to me to make sure the bath stays at the some potental as the taps, and with the taps there and threaded through it, its probably got some connection to the bonding, but through an unknown imediance best to bond it.

I guess without the fitted taps, there is no way it can be an e-c-p, and if its a portable thing thats sometimes used in the lounge, then bonding is going to be a tad tricky anyway...

Interesting one, this, ban :lol:
 
i agree with you adam. the bath only becomes part of the electrical system in a bathroom when its taps are bonded, which they should.
 
Well I ha a pair of ali step ladders and whenver I take them into a house I connect the ready made 10mm flex attached to it to the MET.

You can`t be too carefull. My flask cup is stainless steel BUT it is double insulated inside so there`s no chance of accidental contact with the coffee inside it, however just before I take the first sip (bridging the coffee to the steel outer) I connect a sup bond from the big earth clamp around said cup to the ladders.

You can`t be too carefull these days _ no wonder it`s called sup bond - I`m supping coffee.

Furthermore If I take the ladders into the garden I diconnect from the MEt and place an earth rod in the ground and connect ladders to that, then its a TT ladder, unless I`m working on a double insulated patio or driveway of course
 
i stand by what i said originally...........there is a lot of confusion regarding bonding in bathrooms.........and not just with the incompetents like me.doesnt seem as cut and dried as other aspects of wiring . i wonder why that is? i know for instance that where i live has no bonding conductor to the shower switch, and my house is 2 years old and built for local authority housing.And as far as i know, the bonding conductor should be accessible , so if you cant see it then its wrong
 
sijaysee said:
i agree with you adam. the bath only becomes part of the electrical system in a bathroom when its taps are bonded, which they should.
Why should they?

Are they extraneous-conductive-parts?
 
look ban......the pipework has to be bonded so surely the taps are connected to them and also the metal bath.we are talking about all copper pipework. we are not all scientists and dont all contribute to the BS7671 regs. its not our job..we follow them....its all very well to have an opinion ( and you sure have one)but you dont have the experience of an electrician and that counts for a lot. you are very well read but i dont think that you ever come out of your bedroom and actually do anything.you are more interested in building regs versus 7671. just what is your agenda?
 
BAN may not be an electrician but neither are you. But BAN does know alot more than you about electrical work so why not take his advice.
 

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