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Loft Conversion - Fire door at bottom of loft stairs advice?

Discussion in 'Building Regulations and Planning Permission' started by willcm, 3 Aug 2011.

  1. willcm

    willcm

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    Hi,

    I'm in the process of having plans drawn up for a loft. Rather than have the door at the top of the stairs leading to the loft I want them to be at the bottom so that the loft has more of an open plan feel. I'm unsure of the regs regarding this. From what I can make out I can have a door at the bottom of the stairs but would need 400mm of clear space immediately after the stairs and before the fire door. All the doors to other rooms won't swing across the landing so I can't see any issue with those and of course the landing will be at least the width of the stairs.

    I've attached an image to give you an idea of what I'm talking about.

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    Thanks

    Thomas
     
  2. jeds

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    I don't see where your 400 clear is at the bottom?
     
  3. willcm

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    Thanks for the reply, the plans I've received from the architect showed the door at the top of the stairs in the loft, I've quickly hashed these to show what I want but don't have the graphical skills to show the 400mm gap between the stairs and the door!

    What I really want to know is is there anything in BR that says this design isn't feasible (bearing in mind there will be a 400mm gap between the stairs and door in the actual plans and build)
     
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    I think you will find that the 400mm clear space is to cover the situation where an adjacent door opens across the landing space at the bottom. In the normal situation your stair door will be closed.

    You are only giving yourself a 400mm "landing" which as mikric has pointed out, needs to be at least as long as the width of the stairs.

    So IMHO your layout does not comply.
     
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    If your drawings are correct, then it appears you have no option other than to put a door at the top of the stairs as space at first floor is very limited.
     
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    Hi I have a ViiFire fitted in my house, building control liked it because it gave protected access down from the loft to the next floor down (house is in St Albans)
    BUT SERVICE COSTS are VERY HIGH Coopers Fire charge £475 inc VAT for an annual service, I would not have bought this had I known.
     
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    I'd never seen a ViiFire... In My last open plan conversion I did, I installed a sprinkler system. It cost me £1,200. The service on that is £125. That's just to check the water pump. Boy, they are spanking you on the checking fee ! They must move pretty slowly, weighed down by the large gold chains.
     
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    I may be wrong but can you not fit mains powered interlinked fire alarms in lieu of a fire door?
     
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    That's a requirement regardless.

    There may be other ways round it. Best for the OP to speak to their BCO.
     
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