garbage and deform are certain to do the same according to their disciples on here...
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Interesting.
Earlier you seemed quite keen on presenting the book by Jonah Goldberg as evidence that Odds is wrong, and by extension you are right, and asking a (it seemed to me rhetorical) question "Perhaps these authors are not credible?".
evidently you are wrong:
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Liberal Fascism - Wikipedia
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Perhaps these authors are not credible?
But from the Wikipedia article you linked to:
However, Goldberg also stated that: "there's one important claim that has been rendered utterly wrong. I argued that, contrary to generations of left-wing fearmongering and slander about the right's fascist tendencies, the modern American right was simply immune to the fascist temptation chiefly because it was too dogmatically committed to the Founders, to constitutionalism, and to classical liberalism generally. Almost 13 years to the day after publication, Donald Trump proved me wrong."
So you tell us - is Jonah Goldberg a credible author or not?
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evidently you are wrong:
Left-wing fascism - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Liberal Fascism - Wikipedia
Perhaps these authors are not credible?
First citation, a Wikipedia article documenting the existence of the "Left-wing fascism" concept (and documenting that it is a "contested idea").
Wikipedia is an encyclopædia, it's job is to document things. You'll find that it has articles on Holocaust denial, climate change denial, and the Flat Earth Society.
That a work of reference documents beliefs which some people hold does not per se give those beliefs any credibility.
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Thus establishing the existence of left wing fascism.
- academic article on the subject
- left wingers joining early groups
- socialist fascist movements
- Oswald Mosley rising star in the Labour Party
Its almost as if the lefties on this site want to pretend fascism has always been exclusively right wing.
its fairly clear that is not the case.
- academic article on the subject
- left wingers joining early groups
- socialist fascist movements
- Oswald Mosley rising star in the Labour Party
Its almost as if the lefties on this site want to pretend fascism has always been exclusively right wing.
its fairly clear that is not the case.
Thus establishing the existence of left wing fascism.
- academic article on the subject
- left wingers joining early groups
- socialist fascist movements
- Oswald Mosley rising star in the Labour Party
Its almost as if the lefties on this site want to pretend fascism has always been exclusively right wing.
its fairly clear that is not the case.
Give it up, for goodness sake.
I know you are pathologically unable to accept you are ever wrong. But try, just this once! We don't want another hundred pages.
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Why are you so upset about early fascist movements having left wing origins? Nobody is suggesting that it didn't evolve into what it is today.
Give it up, for goodness sake.
I have almost no interest in the subject. I just find it strange that some on this site seem to object to the existence of left wing origins in Fascism.
Its like denying Oswald Mosley was in the Labour party for 11 years.
Thus establishing the existence of a right wing theory of - correct.
Because a socialist becomes a far right fascist does not equate to fascism becoming a left wing doctrine. Nor will it ever, no matter how hard the RWR try.
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of course nobody has said that, but I am interested as to why a socialist, having held socialist ideals, can be drawn to fascism if it is the complete opposite.
it doesn't makes sense.
Why ANYONE would want to become a fascist, does not make sense.
Until you look at those megalomaniac, narcissistic, murdering, fragile ego nut jobs that wish to control entire populations, of course.
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Good grief.
- academic article on the subject
Academic article DOCUMENTING THAT SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IT.
- left wingers joining early groups
And then quite quickly being purged from those groups.
- socialist fascist movements
Such as?
Socialists with racist beliefs, yes - there have always been those, and antisemites, and still are.
Right-wing, or fascist "working class" - yes, there have always been those, and still are.
But socialism & fascism are diametrically opposed in many ways.
- Oswald Mosley rising star in the Labour Party
Hardly. Have you looked at his entire history?
It's fairly clear that is is.
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According to the arithmetic I learned at school, 1926 to 1930 is 4 years, not 11.
Yep. He was a nailed on Tory that later became a far right fascist. His 'pliable politics' was merely a tool to further his narcissistic political advancements. A spell in the Labour ranks showed this.
Far right fascist, was his true calling.
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On balance I'd say "nope" would be more accurate.
He was a Tory, and an independent, and he tried forming his own party, then he tried Labour.
Long before he became a Labour MP he advocated for improved industrial wages and hours, the nationalisation of electricity and transportation, slum-clearance, the protection of "essential industries" from "unfair competition," and higher government investment in education, child-welfare, and health services.
That's simplistic.
How many years would 1924 - 1931 be?