Mandatory ID cards (Brit Card) to be announced tomorrow

[Deleted member 317777]

As a rule of thumb: if youre having to seek asylum then your original country doesn't like you. And if they don't like you then you don't get a passport.

It's also very different to say no ID and no passport.

More nonsense

 

[Brigadier]

The standard instruction, before they get on the boats, is to dispose of anything which might identify them - obviously, with ID, they would never get into the UK, they would be undesirables.

Some lackwits also shout about how the streets are paved with gold

 

[Knave of Hearts]

How would you know whether an asylum seeker from a third world country destroyed their ID or never had any in the first place?

I don't. I'm talking only about the ones that never had any ID to begin with, the ones you mentioned, remember.

Err, maybe they don’t have any official ID documentation. A lot of these people that come from third world countries dint even have birth certificates.

Only 2% of them arrive with a passport. Oh yeah, we take their word. They have no reason to lie, do they?

98% of Channel boat migrants have no passport - Migration Watch UK

Just 2% of the thousands who have made their way to the UK illegally in small boats via the English Channel were found to be in possession of a passport at the time of being processed in the UK. The finding emerged in the wake of official data being published in a Home Office freedom […]

www.migrationwatchuk.org

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www.telegraph.co.uk

You do know that Migration Watch is a right wing mouthpiece that spreads lies and gossip, don't you?
Don't confuse it with the apolitical Migration Observatory.

So according to you, 98% of them with no ID are held in custody. Is that what you are claiming?

Really? Did I say that?
Where did I say that?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

As a rule of thumb: if youre having to seek asylum then your original country doesn't like you. And if they don't like you then you don't get a passport.

It's also very different to say no ID and no passport.

If I was intending to escape my country, to seek asylum, and I didn't have a passport, the very last thing I would do is to alert the government that I will be needing a passport in the near future.

 

[bernardgreen]

"Having different cards and tokens verifying your identity to a bunch of different systems just doesn't make sense," he says. "Using a chip means that the hyper-connected surroundings that you live in every day can be streamlined."

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/658808705/thousands-of-swedes-are-inserting-microchips-under-their-skin

 

[Si_]

"Having different cards and tokens verifying your identity to a bunch of different systems just doesn't make sense," he says. "Using a chip means that the hyper-connected surroundings that you live in every day can be streamlined."

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/658808705/thousands-of-swedes-are-inserting-microchips-under-their-skin

It's how I always imagined the future.

When Frisk moved into a shared house earlier this year, he organized a chipping party for his new housemates. Now they can access the 16th century building they share in Stockholm's Old Town by tapping their hands on a digital reader by the door.

Finally, we'll be able to enter a building. It's be so awful for the past 400 years, with everyone standing outside their homes and places of work, unable to fathom a way of getting inside.

Control me harder, Daddy! I'm loving it!

 

[Murdochcat]

So the Swiss have narrowly voted in favour of digital ID cards

I think Flip Flop needs to put it to the UK electorate before he decides on potentially wasting billions

 

[Notch7]

Multiverse…..

Oh hang on, isn’t that the name of the company/app for Digital ID ? Run by Blair’s son…

Blair and Starmer are the worst two PM’s we’ve ever had. At least we won’t get another Labour government for a long time.

Blair:

Lowered pensioner poverty
Lowered child poverty
Shortest NHS waiting times in its history
More nurses
More teachers
More police officers
Introduced sure start

Nwgs2 voted for 14 years of Tory govts. Didn’t they do well

And before anybody asks, I’m no fan of Blair, but to claim he was worst PM is demonstrably nonsense.

I think we can safely say worst PM ever can go to the one that was outlasted by a soggy lettuce

 

[blup]

So the Swiss have narrowly voted in favour of digital ID cards

I think Flip Flop needs to put it to the UK electorate before he decides on potentially wasting billions

Stick in a single market option too

 

[motorbiking]

"The Government was tonight (Sept 27th) embroiled in a cronyism row as it emerged Tony Blair secretly lobbied for his billionaire backer who could make millions of pounds from Labour's controversial digital ID cards.

Documents seen by The Mail on Sunday reveal the former prime minister urged Business Secretary Peter Kyle to consult a technology institute founded by his friend Larry Ellison in a private meeting last year.

Mr Ellison, the world's second richest man, has donated or pledged a staggering £257million for the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change.

He founded the Ellison Institute of Technology (EIT), a research centre in Oxford, and is chairman of tech giant Oracle, which has a £700million IT deal with four Whitehall departments.

Experts say Oracle is now in pole position to profit from plans to force millions of adults to sign up for a digital ID card"

And that's just one example!

Larry is now the richest man, though ORCL is down a bit.

 

[Mottie]

Blair:

Went to war on a lie.
Filled his pockets.

 

[JP_]

Oh, here's an idea. Rather than spend millions, or billions, of taxpayer money on another IT scandal, why not go back to the highly efficient systems we used to use? For those who can't remember, I they include:

Schengen Information System (SIS II)
European Criminal Records Information System (ECRIS)
Eurodac
European Arrest Warrant (EAW)
Visa Information System (VIS)
Entry/Exit System (EES)
European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS)
Prüm (DNA, fingerprint, vehicle registration data exchanges)
Passenger Name Record (PNR)

If we had that again, we wouldn't need ID cards for the purposes suggested.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

all the important bank cards, keys, passports, etc.. In one easy to nick location?

that doesn't sound very clever to me.

Do you think it might be better to keep them separately, so that.. I dunno.. you don't lose all of them in one go.

No, I don't. One bunch of keys, is one we take out when lock the house door, when we don't take the car. Another bunch of keys, is the car bunch, which includes the house keys, and caravan. I always have with me the bunch of keys, for what ever I need to open, but all keys on one ring.

I take my wallet, containing all of my cards, as backup for my phone's ability to pay for things.

The single bunch of keys, single wallet, and phone, mean I only need to keep track of those three items, which I do so regularly, and discretely, whilst out and about.

 

[transam]

Afaik

No ID in the US / failing to ID yerself can get you a night in jail ???

 

[JP_]

Afaik

No ID in the US / failing to ID yerself can get you a night in jail ???

Yes, was like that in Nazi Germany, Stalin's Russia, Communist China...