Don't forget it says "within domestic (household) premises".
I doubt the London Fire Brigade has a lot of dealings with cowsheds.
I doubt the London Fire Brigade has a lot of dealings with cowsheds.
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I think we have all agreed, from the start, that the regulation in question does not apply to 'commercial' cow sheds.
However, as I said, I have never been sure whether or not the reg was meant to apply to 'normal' domestic outhouses (sheds, summerhouses, workshops etc.) - and I suppose the dictionary definition BAS has found might strengthen the suggestion that it is meant to.
Kind Regards, John
That depends how you read it.
Does that not mean 'premises' only applies to buildings occupied by a business?
However, this definition is clearer and does state out buildings are included.
Although - that does not mean it was the intention as per my comment about the London FB and cowsheds and also the wording of domestic (household) premises.
Would the (household) insertion exempt sheds?
It does indeed.
As long as BS 7671 is not an official document.
It would.
As long as the shed was not an outbuilding in a domestic premises.
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I initially thought that, and therefore wondered whether "domestic premises" was an oxymoron, therefore invalidating the regulation in question.
However, since that would make no sense, I then noticed the last bit of that definition, which says "... OR considered in an official context" and suspected that we were talking about an 'official context', which would therefore include domestic.
I wondered about that, too, but haven't got a clue as to what, if anything, is the effect of qualifying "domestic" with "(household)". My inclination would be to say that, when describing premises, the two words would usually be interchangeable, so that nothing would be changed by qualifying one with the other.
Kind Regards, John
As I've just written, that would make no sense of the regulation, which is why I concluded that this must be regarded as an "official context" - since, given that "domestic premises" could not exist, the regulation we are discussing could not apply to any installation.
More generally, the phrase "domestic premises" seems to be in very widespread use, so I wonder whether the dictionary definition you have found actually reflects the generally accepted meaning of the word?
Kind Regards, John
Ok. To both of you.
What about household?
OED
What about household?
OED
That sounds about right, - but, when used as a 'modifier' as they call it (how does that differ from an adjective?) to the word "premises", does that result in a different meaning from when "premises" is qualified by "domestic"?
Kind Regards, John
Doesn't matter.
As soon as you include the word "premises" you extend the scope to the land and outbuildings
As soon as you include the word "premises" you extend the scope to the land and outbuildings
Provided that it is "in an official context". Otherwise, the presence of the word "premises" seemingly would, per the definition you're quoting, preclude it (including it's land/outbuildings) from being anything other than commercial.
Kind Regards, John
Here it is in an official context.
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