Motability Cars

[freddiemercurystwin]

If like to give the non-disabled moaners a full-on dose of disability for a month, they'd STFU then.

 

[morqthana]

Does it matter?

Yes.

If it's a tiny percentage of the total number with the condition it would be reasonable that it was those with such severe symptoms that they qualified for the Higher Mobility Component of the Disability Living Allowance, not children easily bored and fidgety.

 

[fillyboy]

Yes.

If it's a tiny percentage of the total number with the condition it would be reasonable that it was those with such severe symptoms that they qualified for the Higher Mobility Component of the Disability Living Allowance, not children easily bored and fidgety.

I said people qualified for motability with ADHD and provided a link.
You said I was wrong.

I was right, you were wrong, suck it up.
I'm not interested in any further discussion with you on this.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I am hearing and reading that up to 1 in 5 new cars is bought on the motability scheme ?
and for as little a £8k theey can upgrade to a Merecedes C Class
also told many are used 6 days a week as family cars and they take the mother to the shops once a week

The worst part - if you get it, before retirement, you keep it after retirement. If need it after retirement - tough, you cannot have it.

 

[yorksbuilder]

Personally I think motability should be for adapted cars like those needing wheelchairs

Agreed. Also I know a family where the child had downs and motsbility assisted them with a vehicle, that really helped them massively

 

[morqthana]

I said people qualified for motability with ADHD and provided a link.
You said I was wrong.

I was right, you were wrong, suck it up.
I'm not interested in any further discussion with you on this.

Oh, I see. Your post wasn't complaining about several thousand children with ADHD qualifying for the highest rate of DLA and using it for Motability, it was actually fully supportive of the 100-or-so severest cases in the UK of Hyperkinetic Syndrome getting it.

 

[fillyboy]

Oh, I see. Your post wasn't complaining about several thousand children with ADHD qualifying for the highest rate of DLA and using it for Motability, it was actually fully supportive of the 100-or-so severest cases in the UK of Hyperkinetic Syndrome getting it.

My post was surprise at the fact ADHD qualified at all.

 

[securespark]

The disabled bays at my local supermarket are more often than not taken up by big 4x4 luxury motors.

Yeah, and they are often not displaying a blue badge.

The only big 4x4 thing I can find on Motability at the moment is a hybrid Santa Fe with an extra payment of £8,000. Expensive it might be, but I wouldn't call it luxury. Or an electric Audi Q4, but not sure it's 4x4. That's also £8,000 extra.

maybe some people are fibbin to get the car?

You can't do that. Happened to a friend. You have to get assessed by your all your relevant consultants and your GP. And then on top of this, you have to have assesments by Capita. There are two parts to PIP. One part assesses daily living needs and the other mobility.

It's only if you have a certain level of difficulty or needs on the mobility side that you can then choose to forgo that part of the PIP benefit for a vehicle.

 

[morqthana]

Yeah, and they are often not displaying a blue badge.

Then they deserve, and risk, a penalty.

The only big 4x4 thing I can find on Motability at the moment is a hybrid Santa Fe with an extra payment of £8,000. Expensive it might be, but I wouldn't call it luxury. Or an electric Audi Q4, but not sure it's 4x4. That's also £8,000 extra.

And, of course, even if they have got a Blue Badge, those "big 4x4 luxury motors" which Mottie seems to think disabled people should be forbidden to own may just be cars they own, and not Motability vehicles. Or they might be cars not owned by anybody disabled at all, but have a blue badge because they're used to transport someone who is.

But no - in Mottieland, any disabled person who dares to travel in anything better than this is a grifter

You can't do that. Happened to a friend. You have to get assessed by your all your relevant consultants and your GP. And then on top of this, you have to have assesments by Capita. There are two parts to PIP. One part assesses daily living needs and the other mobility.

It's only if you have a certain level of difficulty or needs on the mobility side that you can then choose to forgo that part of the PIP benefit for a vehicle.

But the minds of people like pete01, Charlie George, Munroast, Stivino have become so befogged by the BS they read in trashy newspapers, and the BS they see on internet echo-chambers that they don't believe any of that. They just believe, and re-broadcast all the lies they are told.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Then they deserve, and risk, a penalty.

In a supermarket, or other similar private car park, there is no check, nor penalty, for parking in a disabled bay, without a BB.

Again, what is the logic behind that?

Why does a person who becomes disabled before they retire, need to keep their PIP, when someone who becomes similarly disabled after retirement, not need or qualify for it?

I'm one of the latter - I became disabled after retirement. Not complaining, I just think it ought to be a level playing field - equal rights for all.

My original partner, before she passed away, had PIP, free road tax, BB, bus pass, council tax discount, but didn't drive. I provided the vehicle at my expense, she provided the tax.

I retired, later became quite severally disabled, numerous health issues, limited ability to walk. I only qualified for a bus pass, and BB. I still have to fund my own car, pay the tax, insurance, maintenance. I've had to supplement the car, with a mobility scooter, and this week a wheelchair at my expense, to get me to hospital, on my numerous appointments, to use the bus where practical.

Only recently, did I manage to qualify for basic level Attendance Allowance, after quite a battle. I'm presently in another extensive battle, since August, trying to get a council tax discount.

 

[pete01]

You can't do that.

You'd be surprised what the scammers can do

 

[Highway Man]

But no - in Mottieland, any disabled person who dares to travel in anything better than this is a grifter

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I think this car is perfectly suited and adapted for disabled drivers. I would have no issues with these being handed out to those that need a car. It would also stop the scammers trying to get a car when they don't need one.

 

[Mottie]

And, of course, even if they have got a Blue Badge, those "big 4x4 luxury motors" which Mottie seems to think disabled people should be forbidden to own may just be cars they own, and not Motability vehicles

Where did I say anything about them being motability vehicles?

 

[Notch7]

You can't do that. Happened to a friend. You have to get assessed by your all your relevant consultants and your GP. And then on top of this, you have to have assesments by Capita. There are two parts to PIP. One part assesses daily living needs and the other mobility.

it is not easy to get PIP at least for physical disabilities

the assessors are run by a private company and they are trained and instructed to reject everybody they can....hence why 70% of appeals are won.

the systems is designed to be as difficult and demeaning as possible for people with disabilities

my sister has CP, she went to a PIP appointment in Tunbridge Wells, the office was nowhere near a car park, it was up steps and then a lift.........and when she went into the appointment she used a 3 wheeled walker which they described as a 3 wheel

 

[morqthana]

I think this car is perfectly suited and adapted for disabled drivers.

Would you want one?

In what kind of world, what kind of society, would you like to live in, where because someone is disabled they have to have a car like that? What makes you so cruel?

I would have no issues with these being handed out to those that need a car.

It seems the largest font here isn't big enough, as you still haven't spotted the info telling you that

MOTABILITY CARS ARE NOT "HANDED OUT". SOME BENEFIT CLAIMANTS CAN ELECT TO TAKE A CAR IN PLACE OF SOME OF THEIR CASH BENEFIT.

What would you do? Tell someone that they can have a benefit to which they are entitled, but if they try to spend it on a car it'll get taken away from them? What's wrong with you?

It would also stop the scammers trying to get a car when they don't need one.

How easy is it to scam, and get the higher rate of payment? How significant are the amounts of fraud? How many genuine claimants are you prepared to see denied access to a benefit-in-kind which costs no more than benefit-in-cash in order to stop "the scammers trying to get a car when they don't need one"?