Motability Cars

[morqthana]

You have got your knickers in a right old twist haven’t you.

No, I haven't.

But if I had, better that than getting my morality, common decency, and ideas on how society should treat disabled people, all twisted and ugly.

 

[morqthana]

They could always catch the bus. Nice low floors on most of them, trained drivers who'll look after them and priority seats.

Just as long as they'll pay their £3 of course, like the rest of us.

So would you like to be told by the government that you are not allowed to go anywhere except by bus?

Or is this type of enforced restriction only OK when it's applied to disabled people?

 

[morqthana]

The problem with any safety net is that many will use it as a hammock.

There are two choices - tough love, where many won't get the help they want, or looking after everyone where many take the pee out of the rest of us. We're currently the latter, but we can't afford it so the former will be the outcome after someone responsible takes control of the country.

Obviously everyone would prefer a world where everybody got everything they needed, all was fair and the sun shone all day. But that world doesn't exist and never will.

What about fairness for the people who hand over 40% of their income, under threat of state-sanctioned violence if they don't, even though they can't afford the essentials they need? Clearly commie-socialism doesn't care about them.

Did you read this

‘Horrific’ stats show how most disability benefit fraud allegations are false

A “staggering” and “horrific” proportion of allegations of disability benefit fraud that are made by the public are eventually found to be completely false, the government’s own figures have reveal…

www.disabilitynewsservice.com

or were you afraid to in case the crashing sounds as the truth collides with the falsehoods you've stuffed your head with were scary?

How about this?

New official figures expose how politicians and media have repeatedly lied about social security spending

New official figures – hidden by government and opposition parties – have exposed months of lies by politicians and the media about “spiralling” spending on social security and the need to cut bene…

www.disabilitynewsservice.com

 

[morqthana]

You don't know any disabled people do you

Nor do I.

So why am I not ignorant of reality, cruel, and vindictive?

 

[Munroast]

I thought the mobility scheme was to help people with their disabilities when they could not help themselves - if someone has 10 or 20k spare - why don't they buy their own car ?

 

[jj4091]

How much does he contribute on top of his allowance, for it ?

All the dealers advertise their mobility schemes and the extra you need to pay for each model on top of the allowance.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I asked him for you but he said for you to mind your own business

The point being, that the car is almost certainly paid for by him, not by the state, above the standard pip mobility allowance

 

[Highway Man]

No, I haven't.

But if I had, better that than getting my morality, common decency, and ideas on how society should treat disabled people, all twisted and ugly.

Stop being a drama queen. Nobody is being ugly and cruel. I have no problems with anyone who is disabled to have a small car to drive about in. If they want a bigger one then pay the extra for it. Nothing cruel there.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I thought the mobility scheme was to help people with their disabilities when they could not help themselves - if someone has 10 or 20k spare - why don't they buy their own car ?

Yes agreed

But disability can affect anybody. Can you not put extra in if you have it available?

Or if you have enough money then no state support ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

All the dealers advertise their mobility schemes and the extra you need to pay for each model on top of the allowance.

Yes. It's unlikely to be financed by PIP, which was my point

 

[pete01]

The point being, that the car is almost certainly paid for by him, not by the state, above the standard pip mobility allowance

And?

My point was some people are playing the system for a cheaper car.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

And?

My point was some people are playing the system for a cheaper car.

He can't get it if he (or family member) doesn't qualify for it.

He would then only get free what the additional mobility part of pip allows. Anything extra he has to finance.

 

[pete01]

He can't get it if he (or family member) doesn't qualify for it.

He would then only get free what the additional mobility part of pip allows. Anything extra he has to finance.

Its hard to prove someone with a bad back is fibbing, it's happening definitely.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Its hard to prove someone with a bad back is fibbing, it's happening definitely.

But he will still be paying for the upgrade

 

[pete01]

But he will still be paying for the upgrade

Yeah, so what