Neighbour getting smells from our extractor fan?

[robinbanks]

Still waiting on response to how thick the floor is (how deep the joists are) and that floor plan btw. Perhaps one of your neighbours with an identical house has theirs up on rightmove..

 

[nameisme]

Still waiting on response to how thick the floor is (how deep the joists are) and that floor plan btw. Perhaps one of your neighbours with an identical house has theirs up on rightmove..

I'm trying to find this information.
I tried to push open the ceiling panels but they are totally unmovable.
We installed the new extractor fan on the recirculating mode but neighbour was at the door today complaining again about the smells saying they are even worse since we installed the new hood.
The very top where the hole was is sealed so no idea what to do about it. Hes still saying the smeels from the cooking are going into hus bedroom whixh is not even anove pur kitchen they are the terracedhouse next to us. .

 

[Koolpc]

Tell him to move house!!

 

[jj4091]

From the previous threads I have read it appears you are keen to resolve this matter for your neighbours sake. The only solution I think you are left with because of all the obstacles, is to use surface mounted flat ducting and vent it out through the wall. https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Ventilation_Index/index.html I don't think the flat stuff looks too unsightly.

 

[Laurieo]

So if you do vent through the wall will the smells then go through his window .
I think you can only do so much ,did the previous owners have this problem with him .

 

[nameisme]

The previous owners ie before March last year had a terrible relationship with him and were not on speaking terms at all, not over smells but over other issues. He's not on speaking terms with the neighbour to his other side either.
If we were to manage to vent through the wall and there is still an issue then clearly there is an issue with the party wall and only a builder can help with that.

In terms of extracting it through the wall we have had a few tradesmen out who have said it would be too difficult or not possible. It is very hard to find a tradesman who is very knowledgeable and reliable here.
I think I like the idea of useing surface mounted flat ducting and vent it out through the wall but that depends on that is above the false ceiling in that corner near the boiler Pipes. If there's joists then there won't be space.
If someone can please write very clearly exactly what I would like to do and using exactly what materials and how and the route that would be really helpful so I can give that to another tradesman.

 

[robinbanks]

I tried to push open the ceiling panels but they are totally unmovable.

You showed a picture of upstairs with floorboards lifted; you can measure the joist depth there. Floorplan would be what, less than 10 rectangles on a piece of paper for the downstairs and upstairs, photoed and uploaded, with an indication which direction joists run; not after a millimetre perfect scale drawing, just trying to find out where the room is in relation to the rest of everything around it including neighbours

The corner where the boiler is is indeed busy but telling us the layout might reveal something else like going through the ceiling and into the bedroom, or to the other side of the room, or to splitting the ducting and going through the joists, or to turning and going through the wall at an angle so it emerges more than 300mm from the flue, or a different hood style and ducting round under the kitchen units, or or or

If you have something that isn't straightforward, the clueless trades that have turned up have said it's impossible (objectively incorrect) and you're seeking inspiration from people more willing to think about it, you really do need to get those people up to speed with the same level of info that you are privy to (you live there and can look at everything, so we need to be put to that same level of standing. We don't want your opinion, or the tradesman's opinion as the starting point, we want the raw info so we can form independent opinions)

 

[jj4091]

Why are you talking to electricians to install this for you? An electrician usually deals with the wiring, rather than the installation you need - what you need it a builder, or perhaps a general handyman.

I'm sorry Harry but if an electrician did not have the intelligence to sort this problem then I would not have much confidence in his electrical skills. It probably won't be cheap and would involve an unusual amount of work WRT installing an extractor, but heaven help us if things have sunk that low that they aren't prepared to put themselves out for a customer.

 

[jj4091]

"If someone can please write very clearly exactly what I would like to do and using exactly what materials and how and the route that would be really helpful so I can give that to another tradesman."

It would not be realistic for someone to give you exaact details but I personally would be thinking
1) Fit one of these to the ceiling inside the chimney https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FD55400.html
2) Fit length of ducting to run parallel with window far enough to be well clear of boiler flue https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FD55150.html
3)Fit one of these to turn ducting towards window https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FD55500.html
4)Fit ducting through wall, capping off outside with one of these https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FD55501W.html
5)Connect item 1 to the extractor with suitable flexi pipe https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FD5slash4.html
6) Fit chimney around new ducting
You will probably also need suitable brackets or adhesive to fix the trunking to the ceiling

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I'm sorry Harry but if an electrician did not have the intelligence to sort this problem then I would not have much confidence in his electrical skills. It probably won't be cheap and would involve an unusual amount of work WRT installing an extractor, but heaven help us if things have sunk that low that they aren't prepared to put themselves out for a customer.

An electricians job, usually ends at the ends of the wiring, and the wiring accessories, they are no builders, plumbers, or joiners. So why expect one to have the tools and expertise to cut through walls and install ducts? The electrical part of the job, is a tiny proportion of the job. Intelligence of the electrician, is nothing to do with it at all, rather it is a matter of calling in the correct trade for the major part of the job.

 

[jj4091]

An electricians job, usually ends at the ends of the wiring, and the wiring accessories, they are no builders, plumbers, or joiners. So why expect one to have the tools and expertise to cut through walls and install ducts? The electrical part of the job, is a tiny proportion of the job. Intelligence of the electrician, is nothing to do with it at all, rather it is a matter of calling in the correct trade for the major part of the job.

I've never seen it that way myself.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I've never seen it that way myself.

Are you a qualified, professional tradesman? Horses for courses. You never engage a plumber to build a house, nor a builder, to rewire the place.

 

[jj4091]

Are you a qualified, professional tradesman? Horses for courses. You never engage a plumber to build a house, nor a builder, to rewire the place.

Yes and as an electrician I've never baulked at cutting holes through walls to fit extractors in kitchens or bathrooms. Plus I did build my own bungalow after demolishing an old chappel by hand and clearing the site.I did employ other trades where necasary,like making doors and windows and installing gas appliances and doing the plastering, but little else. I seem to recall from some of your posts that you don't have any qualms about tackling jobs you have never done before.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Yes and as an electrician I've never baulked at cutting holes through walls to fit extractors in kitchens or bathrooms. Plus I did build my own bungalow after demolishing an old chappel by hand and clearing the site.I did employ other trades where necasary,like making doors and windows and installing gas appliances and doing the plastering, but little else. I seem to recall from some of your posts that you don't have any qualms about tackling jobs you have never done before.

What you are prepared to do, when it is for oneself, is very different to what one should attempt as an employed expert. I do all the plumbing, joinery, building, decorating work, plus anything else which needed doing, here - but I would never do it any of it for anyone else, claiming to be a professional. As said, horses, for courses, exactly as the OP has found.

If my home needed ductwork, for a cooker hood, yes I would do it, but if someone came to me and asked me to do the same job in their home, I would suggest they go find an appropriate tradesman.

 

[nameisme]

I'm sorry Harry but if an electrician did not have the intelligence to sort this problem then I would not have much confidence in his electrical skills. It probably won't be cheap and would involve an unusual amount of work WRT installing an extractor, but heaven help us if things have sunk that low that they aren't prepared to put themselves out for a customer.

"Hi I'm sorry but I think that will be to difficult to do it." Was the response exactly from one and pretty much the same response from the others in different words. They are just not interested in difficult jobs.