New to electrics 5500w 25Amp

[lsearson]

Igorian

so what do you suggest i do

 

[mapj1]

Contact the makers and ask if it can be used off a single phase supply.
This may be possible if it is only heaters that are on different phases, as they can be paralelled safely.
If it's a motor using 3 phase to determine a rotation however, either you need to look into getting a motor control inverter, or you are simply sunk without 3 phase supply.
If so, the LEB will charge a K or so for giving 3 phase supply and meter to a domestic property in the UK (depends how far from the sub station you are).
I which case you might like to consider trading it in for something more conventional.

First contact the makers for advice.
regards M.

 

[Igorian]

Igorian

so what do you suggest i do

Well, first ask yourself if you really want a 3 phase washing machine in your kitchen. If so, get someone qualified to take a look and advise what to do.

 

[WabbitPoo]

Wouldn't an installation like this be subject to Part P? I'm not spark, but sounds like it would. Please correct me as required. Its clear the poster knows nowt about electrics (nor do I!) so he seems to be just what Part P is aiming at avoiding.......?

 

[breezer]

no one did because if you read his first post he does mention it says

The clue is here, if you read the original post

rencently got given a Miele washing machine which was used in a commercial building, and i want to install this machine in my kitchen at home, but have been told by the person who gave it to me it works on a different power system.

I just think to read that and then suggest he can wire it up like a cooker is a little irresponsible.

I await a beasting

i never mentioned how to wire it, infact i mentioned it was a bad idea since being industrial it will probably need to be bolted to the floor, and maybe have a special "isolated floor"

personally i think he should sell it for scrap

 

[lsearson]

thanx mapji and igorian for the help im going to get someone in and at least i have some idea in what is involved now, so im going to keep you posted and see what i get quoted.

and a big thanx to breezer who wants me to scrap a 2k machine even if it dont work at home is it not worth selling on to a commercial building.

cheers all

 

[Igorian]

i never mentioned how to wire it, infact i mentioned it was a bad idea since being industrial it will probably need to be bolted to the floor, and maybe have a special "isolated floor"

I didn't refer to you or anyone, just that it was suggested.

personally i think he should sell it for scrap

Ahh, that's more like the comment we've come to love & respect.

 

[swelec]

I rencently got given a Miele washing machine which was used in a commercial building

many thanks

So you were given the machine which suggests it cost you nowt

Assuming you have to have a 3 phase supply, this will cost you about the same as three or four well spec'd new domestic machines

Cut your (non) losses and follow previous advice

Bin it or sell it on - put this one down to experience

 

[breezer]

lsearson, you may think i am taking the mick, but i would like to point out that there is one thing i keep mentioning that you keep avoiding.

If it is a commercial appliance it you can not just "shove it in a corner" it must be bolted down (not to floor boards either) it may even have to have a special isolated floor, I should say if the former the concrete should be at least 8 inches thick if not more, which probaly also rules out most of your house.

You have seen an ordainairy m/c move on spin, what do you think a commercial m/c will do?

i bear you no ill, i just think you are wasting your time, i do not suppose you have for one minute thought:
how does it work,?
how much will it cost to run,?
how much will it cost to install,?
how much to repair ?

(all, asuming you can get it to work)

hence, sell it as scrap

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Why do you keep insisting that it is scrap?

 

[breezer]

Why do you keep insisting that it is scrap?

read my previous post (its basically of no use / cost more to install PROPERLY than it is worth)

they should also be installed by specialist engineers

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Not to him, but that doesn't make it scrap.

I can't fly a helicopter, but if someone gave me one I wouldn't sell it for scrap.

 

[breezer]

fair point, but this is not a helicopter, helicopters cost more than an industrial w/m, and what if in your case the hc was beyond repair, but you were told well it used to fly (but that was umpteen years ago, before it went rusty)

you would call in the pros to look / evaluate it, then scrap it

 

[felix]

Sorry Isearson if you seem to have got left out of this. I'm afraid that your machine most likely has a three phase motor. My reasoning behind this is quite simple. Why put in anything else when you have a three phase supply? There is no way to run a three phase motor on a single phase domestic supply. You can either pay through the nose to have three phase power put in or buy a very expensive one to three phase converter - or get rid of the thing and buy a domestic machine.

Just out of interest, how did you plan to connect up those red, yellow and blue wires? Also out of interest, do you have a black core in there? If you don't then mapj1's idea of parallelling up the heaters won't work either.

I suppose it's lucky you got it for nothing. Is it worth more than scrap value? I really can't answer that's because I'm no economist. I suppose it all depends on finding somebody who wants to buy one. I certainly wouldn't scrap a working machine without exhausting all other possibilities. You could try eBay!!!!

 

[Damocles]

Why the devil is everyone saying it must be three phase?

1) it said it was 240V

2) it has three wires coming out of it.

So far that sounds exactly like single phase to me.

The only odd bit so far is wire colours red, blue and yellow. Did you look at them closely?

Assuming it works like a conventional washing machine, then most of the power is used for heating water. If you supply it with hot water then it is much cheaper to run.