Not Part P

[New2Game]

In theory if a 6mm shower cable had a screw/nail (damaged) put through it, would it be ok for an electricain who's not part p registered to replace the cable? If he was replacing it would it be ok to replace with 10mm cable in case shower was ever upgraded? I'm of the understanding you can replace fittings or damaged cable in special locations without being part p

Would this work just require a minor works certificate?

 

[Chivers7]

http://www.niceic.org.uk/downloads/Pocket Guide 8.pdf

hope this helps - Special Location

 

[DESL]

If he was replacing it would it be ok to replace with 10mm cable in case shower was ever upgraded?

No as it changes the cct characteristics see note 6 of link from previous post.

 

[sm1thson]

i havent seen any actual 'part p police' the fear of disobeying part p seams to be when it comes to selling a house if a surveyor finds something, and the uncertainty of the new buyer packs highlighting such things. I cant see how a surveyor will say 'ok you didnt install it you only changed a cable' when the fear is all hell will break loose when a diy installation is found.

 

[securespark]

No. Because although you can replace a single cable damaged by fire flood rodent or impact, it must be the same size & type & follow the same route as the damaged one. A great comfort when the existing cable may be undersized for the existing load & routed badly to start with...

 

[sm1thson]

but who knows what size the original cable was in 2 years time!?!

 

[securespark]

We are talking about what should be done if following Part P.

As a professional electrician with a responsibility to give good advice, I cannot advocate breaking the law.

 

[davy_owen_88]

If you managed to put a nail through it I'd assume it was routed pretty badly anyway, in which case the new cable should be routed within the safe zones and if this means moving them from the original location then it technically should be notified.

Upgrading the cable is not going to make the installation any less safe but if you follow part P then your not allowed to do that either, even if the current cable is undersized and a risk.

Of course, like sm1thson has pointed out, who's going to know what route the original cable took and how big that cable was? As long as it is done to current standards I'd rather see someone ignore part P and make the installation safer than not do the job because they can't afford to get someone in to do it for them. But I would also rather and advise that it is done by a professional.

Davy

 

[mst]

good old PP, it always causes debate!

 

[salem2000]

No. Because although you can replace a single cable damaged by fire flood rodent or impact, it must be the same size & type & follow the same route as the damaged one. A great comfort when the existing cable may be undersized for the existing load & routed badly to start with...

I was under the impression the the regs stated "On condition that the replacement cable has the same current carriying capacity and follows the same route"

It says nothing about like for like, unlike the NICEIC documentation. If the 6mm was replaced with a 10mm cable, does that then mean that it cannot carry the same capacity as the 6mm.