Omicron variant caught a cold

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"We resign: more than 200 nursing staff quit trust in six months

‘Departures from NHS are no surprise’, given pressures nursing staff face , says union – which is why nurses need better pay and flexible working

More than 200 nursing staff have quit one NHS trust in the past six months.

The stark statistic shows the scale of exhaustion and demoralisation in the workforce, the RCN said, with a senior figure blaming the twin pressures of long-term staffing shortages and COVID-19.

Nursing staff are demoralised and exhausted"



https://rcni.com/nursing-standard/n...00-nursing-staff-quit-trust-six-months-177216
Is that all, given the poor conditions and hard time they’re having of it I’d have thought it’d be in the thousands
 
whatever the reality behind that article, I think we all know there is a huge shortage of nurses, not least because of the stress of working in a failing NHS.
Not disputing that and I know that for a fact. Just that some people post up on here and never quite give the full information to build a complete picture. Sure, there may have been 200 that have left that trust in the last 6 months (that could happen in any large organisation) but how many have joined that trust in the same period?
 
Not disputing that and I know that for a fact. Just that some people post up on here and never quite give the full information to build a complete picture. Sure, there may have been 200 that have left that trust in the last 6 months (that could happen in any large organisation) but how many have joined that trust in the same period?
The article says it was 4% of the total, which means an annual equivalent of 8% turnover. Unfortunately that isn't useful either without a baseline for what it normally is for nurses.
 
I don’t think there is any intention of doing that - the PM is going to find it hard to get enough MP to vote through the minimal restrictions planned (maybe they are too busy with parties to attend Parliament).

no the government dont want to do it, but the health experts are trying to angle it that way,
 
What probability?
The one described in the post - that there will be overload of the NHS with covid and all will suffer as a result
Asking people to reduce the number of cases by restricting what they do is "hysteria"?

Queues are due to the underfunding of the NHS, although covid has exacerbated the situation.
So if we have tens of thousands of people queueing to get into hospital with covid you're going to blame underfunding.

If the new variant is no more Pathogenic than the previous Delta variant, why the need for more restrictions?
Because there will be many times as many people with the new variant of unknown severity.
If omicron turns out to be 90% the pathogenicity of delta , the NHS will not be able to cope. Directly or indirectly, people will suffer and die.

Restriction of activities would have reduced that.

What's so hard for you to understand?

It's not panic, it's common sense.
 
It seems there will be 3 separate votes on the new restrictions. The one that will get least support by the Tory will concern mass gathering and tests and at least double jabbed etc. However the people who vote against that know that Labour will help it through. Pure politics and some who probably feel lets get the cull over as soon as possible. They are hedging about the eventual number of deaths but more is likely to come out on that eventually as it happens. As people age and virus may just stay it's something we may have to always live with.
 
was reading an article the other day and pandemics usually last between 2.5 and 3.5 years, apparently as the virus mutates it weakens itself, because it's intentions is not to kill the host. however they do not yet know if covid will follow the same trajectory
 
was reading an article the other day and pandemics usually last between 2.5 and 3.5 years, apparently as the virus mutates it weakens itself, because it's intentions is not to kill the host. however they do not yet know if covid will follow the same trajectory

We've had various global 'flus, which didn't last long. WHich pandemics?
 
Nice list:
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/10-pandemics-throughout-history.html


Hmmm, that looks familiar
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Because there will be many times as many people with the new variant of unknown severity.
If omicron turns out to be 90% the pathogenicity of delta , the NHS will not be able to cope. Directly or indirectly, people will suffer and die.

Restriction of activities would have reduced that.

What's so hard for you to understand?

It's not panic, it's common sense.

The common sense seems to be entirely lacking in the anti-vaxxers and like children when denied a sweetie, they just repeat 'why, why, why..' when the answer is so obvious.
 
The common sense seems to be entirely lacking in the anti-vaxxers and like children when denied a sweetie, they just repeat 'why, why, why..' when the answer is so obvious.

I part blame the gov and communications for some of it. They need people to carry on and little attention is paid to the age of people in hospital other than old. Well I recently posted something showing a large number of them are in their twenties. A week ago most were in their late 40's area.

This goes back to the earlier days. Many hardly notice etc and only the old suffer. That's far from the truth other than death and isn't totally true in that area either.
 
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