Painting over eggshell on wood - options?

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  1. LadyHomeLover

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    I'm fed up with my kitchen wall colours and want a change.

    The entire kitchen is clad in tongue and groove (NOT my doing!) and then painted with oil-based eggshell paints - dark red above the dado line and custard yellow beneath. I want to repaint it pale blue and off-white. I dislike gloss finishes so prefer eggshell, though satinwood would be acceptable.

    I am OK with washing it all down with sugar soap but I cannot take on the task of sanding it all down.

    I know that the current trend is away from oil based paints, but I realise I cannot put emulsion paint over oil based.

    What are my options of paint for repainting, please?

    Also, should I use an undercoat or just go for two coats?



    Thank you

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    Sanding is always the best option for providing a key but, if you want to avoid that, the simplest way is to use a high grip primer. Dulux Super Grip, Zinsser Bullseye, etc, or you could use ESP which is made by Owatrol.

    http://www.owatroldirect.co.uk/product/esp-easy-surface-prep/
    http://www.duluxdecoratorcentre.co.uk/view-product/dulux-trade-super-grip-primer
    http://www.zinsseruk.com/product/bulls-eye-1-2-3-plus/
    http://www.zinsseruk.com/product/bulls-eye-1-2-3/

    If you go for a high grip primer, make sure you allow it plenty of time to dry before applying the eggshell and not just the drying time. It can take several days to achieve full adhesion on shiny surfaces.
     
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    Thanks, Mister. I've been using Zinsser 123 for furniture painting and still have a tin! Happy to work with that, though it's pricey!

    I just watched the video for Owatrol and read all the reviews. Sounds amazing and I am now thinking about all the other things I can paint after using it.

    More questions!

    1. Should I wash all the cladding with sugar soap before using the primer?

    2. Once I have covered the whole of the cladding with primer, can I then put any kind of paint on it (such as emulsion, kitchen & bathroom paint or water-based satinwood, for example?)

    Here are some pics of the kitchen in case seeing it helps

    http://imgur.com/a/0QLnj


    Cheers

    Lady
     
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    You should give the cladding a good clean to remove any traces of grease or grime as this will stop the primer adhering properly. You can use sugar soap but make sure you then rinse of any residue with clean water before proceeding.

    The Bullseye will be accept any form of paint well but for a kitchen I would still recommend sticking with something hard-wearing, such as an eggshell, but it all depends on how much moisture, grease, etc, the walls are subjected to as to whether a kitchen paint or satinwood is suitable.
     
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    Thanks Mr H. One more question... if I am going to paint over the cladding with eggshell paint, can I not just wash it all down with sugar soap and then go for 2 coats of eggshell? I mean, why do I need the primer?

    The kitchen is barely ever used for cooking and is very airy (draughty windows) plus we always use the extractor hood when boiling or fying.
     
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    Oil based paints, even the duller finish of eggshell, still leave a surface that further coats will not usually adhere to very well. You may well get away with applying the new paint after just thoroughly washing down the existing surface but, further down the line, you could live to regret it.
    The purpose of sanding/high grip primer is to provide a key/surface for your new paint to adhere to. If you skip this step, you could find that the new layer of paint will be easily scraped/chipped off when bumped or will not stand up to vigorous cleaning if ever required.
     
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