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• empip
• 9 Jan 2015
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[hi1]

Can you give examples of these arrests?

Remember the woman arrested on underground for saying foreigners go home.
Loads more have been tried in court for racially aggravated offences which include making some reference to colour
numerous public figures either forced to step down or make a grovelling apology for calling a spade a spade.

 

[hi1]

You aren't doing anything except typing nonsense on a diy forum.

Read more: //www.diynot.com/diy/threads/paris.423224/page-3#ixzz3OKQW1pmH
Typing nonsense as you call it on a forum is the only avenue open to most people to express what they feel or else you face arrest from the police for racially aggravated offences. As we are supposed to live in a democracy why cant we express our opinion at the ballot box by way of a referendum as to reversing the multiculturalism which has been foisted upon the majority. Or was there already a vote which I missed?

 

[wkdhd]

I wasn't talking to you but never mind.

You only get arrested if you are doing something against the law. Peaceful protest is fine, even the knuckle draggers from the edl are tolerated and find it quite hard to get arrested.

We don't live in Switzerland and don't decide things by referendum. What is your objection to multiculturalism as you call it. Do you not like people from other countries living here for instance.

The woman was not saying foreigners go home, it was a torrent of racist abuse which is against the law.

As you replied I'll ask the same question. Ukip, bnp, edl or britain first ?

 

[AronSearle]

What is your objection to multiculturalism

Russia has very high levels of corruption, alcoholism, nepotism and organised crime (as do some of the eastern European countries).

Same as Africa plus lot's of gun violence and higher rape statistics.

India has terrible woman abuse issues (as seen in recent cases).

Etc.

Now you can try and argue like rouge hamster that none of this is part of culture, and I will laugh at you.

Or you can try to explain how brining in people from these cultures without forcing them to assimilate to our culture is a good thing, and I will again laugh at you.


Multiculturilism is a lie, where it has worked it is because the people coming over mostly conform to our values and just eat funny food.

 

[wkdhd]

There is a lot of gun violence in the USA, would you stop them coming here? What is your proposed solution? Send them all back?

 

[Johnmelad]

Just a couple of many such incidents

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-race-assault-Muslim-woman-supermarket.html

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/claim-of-islamic-veil-bus-ban-thrown-out-6496959.html

 

[Newboy]

To put the issue at it's most simple (the best my mind can cope with!)


Two practical choices:

1) Drive a wedge between Muslim extremists and the rest of society

2) Drive a wedge between all Muslims and the rest of society

For what it worth I'm going for (1)

 

[Newboy]

Good news - three less lunatics on the planet - they now have an opportunity to explain their actions to the Almighty rather than a jury!

And before anybody bleats about a right to justice and a trial by jury - don't!

All three individuals chose and expected their ultimate fate, trial and imprisonment would have achieved nothing.

 

[Norcon]

Where are the hordes of people carrying placards

I take it you mean Muslims and as a protest? Why should they. it has nothing to do with them. Similarly when the IRA set a bomb off you wouldn't expect hordes of Catholics carrying banners.
You aren't doing anything except typing nonsense on a diy forum.
As a matter of interest which political group would you most identify with. Ukip, bnp, edl, britain first or another one

You couldn't expect them too if they secretly condone terrorist attacks.
Which of course many do.

Not many condoned the omagh bombing which is why it brought hordes of catholics out unto the street in protest.
Shortly after the peace process began and the irish brought their dogs of war to heel.

 

[Whitespirit66]

The problem with being in any silent majority is that as a lone individual you feel powerless to stop what you see as being wrong.

Why not band together and show us all what the really feel. Individual journalists and others (under threat of death) are prepared to step up to the line and condemn what is happening.

There is nothing to stop them from peaceful demonstrations with placards condemning the minority.

Looks like the Gerrys are getting fed up with the situation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/06/world/europe/pegida-rally-dresden-germany.html?_r=0

 

[Whitespirit66]

Does anyone here see merit in a more considered reaction in order to isolate extremists rather than play into their hands?

There is a lot of merit in a considered reaction.

Publicity benefits the terrorists. Unfortunately the media will always make the most of the situation when it would be better to not give publicity to the terrorists and the search for them. The internet also allows the news to be spread and makes it impossible for the security services to keep the media silent.

Sounds great. Bit difficult to keep the fact that dozens of French people are dying, Paris is a war zone, motorway shoot outs with paramilitary style terrorists, hostages held at a supermarket and police being executed in the street, etc, etc, etc

Maybe if we look the other way, pretend it's not happening and put our fingers in our ears, the nice terrorists might go back to driving taxis and running corner shops.

Meanwhile................back in the real world........................

 

[bernardgreen]

React against the known and obvious terrorists. That is essential to prevent them continuing to terrorise innocent civilians.

But avoid reacting against those innocent and non radical people who happen to share the same religion or ethic origins as the in-humane terrorists.

 

[Whitespirit66]

React against the known and obvious terrorists. That is essential to prevent them continuing to terrorise innocent civilians.

But avoid reacting against those innocent and non radical people who happen to share the same religion or ethic origins as the in-humane terrorists.

Trouble is, the religion is question has far more wrong with it than just terrorism. They have lots of different wings. Some absolute nut-jobs involved in terrorism, but lots of less overt subversive activities going on that don't bode well for the indigenous population. Think imposition of sharia law, ghettos, Rochdale, Trojan horse take overs of schools, halal, anti-Semitism, mysogony, etc, etc.

Terrorism is only a small part of it. It will both be imposed by force and subversion. The authorities have tried appeasement and ignoring what's occurring - but still it gets worse.

 

[Brigadier]

If you were a young Muslim and read this sort of thread would you be more or less likely to feel alienated and aggressive?

Possibly. However.....

...the only reason that this thread exists at all is because thugs murdered people who either were just exercising their right to free speech, or were just unlucky to have come into the line of fire. Thugs doing these things, in the name of Islam.

Shouldn't there be hoardes of peaceable Muslims reclaiming their faith from these "isolated aberrations"?

I don't see comparisons with the Irish "Troubles" being analogous - the usual trot is that lunatics like the Paris murderers are just that - lunatics, and isolated ones at that. Whereas the Irish Catholics were numerous enough to be called an Army (IRA).

Not being islamophobic - just asking serious questions.