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Has anyone got any reliable figures about the number of contractors going for competent person status.
Figures such as thousands expected to only 10% have and I don`t know if that figure includes the NIC approved bods who got "auto" competence too.
It really would be interesting to know the score.
 
Ebee..I don't need to pay a load of muppets money to prove I'm competent, I have 23 years of experience and my work speaks for itself...

The same is true for 95% of Electricians...
 
Big_Spark said:
Ebee..I don't need to pay a load of muppets money to prove I'm competent, I have 23 years of experience and my work speaks for itself...

The same is true for 95% of Electricians...

I did not imply otherwise mate and think you are probably absolutely correct.
All I said was it would be interesting too see proper results of figures.
 
ebee

noticed that you have posted this on 2 forums - and both times the reactionc have been amusing! Pandoras' box? :lol:
 
I am informed Napit & Elecsa just over 700 each in the first quarter.
Not many is it?
 
I agree we shouldn't have to prove that we are compotent, but this will have an effect on future works. I am about to bite the bullet and go for full nic status, and have already done the Aprooved Certifier status in Scotland. (I have started picking up work from this)

It's not enough to just have the experience etc. people are now looking for bits of paper / membership of bodies etc. , It cost me quite a bit to do all this and I have the feeling all is not in vein. Time will tell.

It doesn't matter how much experience you have, up here (Scotland) for example customers are directed to the sbsa (building standards agency) website by the local authority to find an electrician to do their conservatory / extension etc. wiring.

No electrician who is on the list = no pass of work by building control / or lots of hoops & delays for customer.
 
And, as in the other place, I will serve up the only official figures to have seen daylight. - You can then draw your own conclusion about what fraction of the UKs 60,000 or so electricians have not joined a scheme, and how many notifications there ought to be to building control.
Which is odd, as I personally know the first notified rewire in Winchester was done less than a month ago by a colleague of ours, (we sort of put him up to it to test the system - and it passed with only minor comments, of course, but they brought the whole building control team round to see it, as it was such a special occasion !)
For the benefit of those readers not familier with what was said in "the other place"..
here we go
The last official (ODPM) figures that have seen the light of day so far, have now been displayed publicly in the building control magazine 'sitelines' here. http://www.sitelines.co.uk/default.asp?channel_id=2233&editorial_id=18753
They are the figures for the first quarter of 2005, so probably rather low, as I'm sure one or two more firms will have signed up since then. .

:)

however the key numbers of firms with each body were then

BRE: 750
(It is not clear if this figure includes the ECA members auto-joined or not.)

BSI: 70
CORGI: 1841
ELECSA: 718
NAPIT: 873
NICEIC: 12,587 (of whom about 10,000 auto-joined as they already had NICEIC approval, before the scheme started)
OFTEC: 0
and the total number of notifiable jobs in this time about 158,000 in the first 3 months

IF this work-rate has scaled in the following quarters, this is suggesting an average of about 30 notifiable jobs per year, per business.

Obviously for some it will be much more, and for others less.
One should also note that the NIC figure started high, as they already had about 10,000 members who were already in a position to qualify pretty much from day one - so this does not represent such a large rate of growth as for example CORGI, who started from a nil base in terms of electrical work. The actual number of totally new applicants, who were not NIC members already is more or less similar to the figures for the other schemes.

regards Mike

PS
Bad news for OFTEC and the BSI I guess.... :roll: :roll:
 
baldelectrician said:
It doesn't matter how much experience you have, up here (Scotland) for example customers are directed to the sbsa (building standards agency) website by the local authority to find an electrician to do their conservatory / extension etc. wiring.

No electrician who is on the list = no pass of work by building control / or lots of hoops & delays for customer.
I guess we'll find out if it's true or not that the Scots are easy to lead but hard to rule...
 

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