Well folks, I thought it about time I ressurected this once popular feature.
Spotted this today whilst out and about.
Spotted this today whilst out and about.
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I don't have a picture as the area is to dusty at the moment, but I've just revealed some lovely work.
Basically, I have 2 walls at 90 degree angles to each other (dining room and hallway), with a doorway at a 45 degree angle (funny shape hallway). To install the hallway light switch, they took the cables down with the dining room light switch cable (not in conduit either), and drilled behind the door frame horizontally.
Unfortunately I decorated the wrong way round (dining room first) so don't fancy ripping out the cables to do it properly.
F'in bodgers!
Basically, I have 2 walls at 90 degree angles to each other (dining room and hallway), with a doorway at a 45 degree angle (funny shape hallway). To install the hallway light switch, they took the cables down with the dining room light switch cable (not in conduit either), and drilled behind the door frame horizontally.
Unfortunately I decorated the wrong way round (dining room first) so don't fancy ripping out the cables to do it properly.
F'in bodgers!
There may be method behind the madness. If the block work falls down (which it surely will) it will instantly disconnect the shaver socket.
"additional protection by loose/uninsulated cables"
"additional protection by loose/uninsulated cables"
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Looks like it's been moved twice!!
May be lots of lovely choc blocks buried in the mortar...
May be lots of lovely choc blocks buried in the mortar...
I dread to think!! It's an extention we are wiring. All this lot will be gone when we get on to that part of the house.
If you've got a dangerous, and therefore illegal, electrical installation then what you do or do not fancy is pretty irrelevant...
Is it illegal to have a dangerous electrical installation if only you and you family are at risk from it ?
It certain is very stupid to know you have a dangerous electrical installation and do nothing about it.
I didn't mean that he's done anything illegal, but if what he has isn't reasonably safe then what he has does not comply with the law.
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Paul_C
What is actually dangerous about it?
I agree it would be very stupid but, if it is illegal, I don't know what legislation makes it illegal. My understanding is that 'Part P' relates to work undertaken (or, at least, parts of the installation on which work is undertaken), not to the existing state of an installation - and is presumably not retrospective (i.e. doesn't apply to work which per-dates Part P). If the wiring we're talking about was installed post-2004, then the installing may well have been illegal - but I'm not aware of any legislation which would technically make the installation, per se, illegal. Anyone?
Thinking more widely about the building regs in general, if it were illegal to have a house which includes features which would violate to the current regs (hence illegal) if introduced today, then the majority of us would probably be living in 'illegal' houses - which I do not believe to be the case.
Kind Regards, John.
Arguably, in absolute engineering terms, not a lot (in terms of what we can see). However, I'm sure that a lot of people would be prepared to testify that to have 'exposed' unsheathed (albeit insulated) conductors is potentially dangerous. I imagine that most of us would have to agree that unsheathed conductors have to be more 'potentially dangerous' than sheathed ones.
Kind Regards, John.
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I was thinking of the case mentioned by "ldoodle" with a cable running horizontally behind the door frame, as that's what was quoted by BAS with the comment about a dangerous installation.
Precisely. "Reasonable provision shall be made in the design and installation of electrical installations....." That refers to what somebody actually does now (since 2005) when undertaking electrical work. It doesn't make any reference to the legality or otherwise of existing installations.
Indeed, it would mean that every time the regs. (or to be precise, the official interpretation of what extra features are required to satisfy the regs.) change, millions of homes would suddenly become "illegal," which would be ridiculous.
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