Plug In Solar consultation now open

[JohnW2]

Maybe appoint Flameport or JohnW2 as the forum’s spokesperson.

I can't speak for flameport, but there's absolutely no way that I could (or would remotely want to!) act as a 'spokesperson' in relation to such a confused and confusing mess, which (just like 'smart' meters and many other things) seems to be being rushed ahead by poorly-advised politicians who presumably perceive it as a possible way of making them a little less unpopular in the eyes of the population (aka the electorate!) !

 

[blup]

I can't speak for flameport, but there's absolutely no way that I could (or would remotely want to!) act as a 'spokesperson' in relation to such a confused and confusing mess, which (just like 'smart' meters and many other things) seems to be being rushed ahead by poorly-advised politicians who presumably perceive it as a possible way of making them a little less unpopular in the eyes of the population (aka the electorate!) !

Just write in as an individual then

 

[ericmark]

I as said did think about it, however that would be a dog in a manger situation, as if I want more panels, law change or not, I would buy them, so why stop others.

It is a let the buyer be aware situation. There has to be a limit to cotton wool use.

 

[JohnW2]

Just write in as an individual then

What do you think I would want to say, either as an individual or as the "forum spokesperson"? .... perhaps that I think the whole half-baked idea should probably be put on hold for a year or three (until we have a different, coalition, government?) to give people time to hopefully give some serious, sensible, and properly-informed, thought to all of the relevant issues?

 

[ericmark]

What do you think I would want to say, either as an individual or as the "forum spokesperson"? .... perhaps that I think the whole half-baked idea should probably be put on hold for a year or three (until we have a different, coalition, government?) to give people time to hopefully give some serious, sensible, and properly-informed, thought to all of the relevant issues?

They have already had the time, although only announced in March, studies have been going on for 18 months. efixx seem to say there is no problem with uni-directional RCD's as it disconnects fast enough not to damage them.

So we are left with the same problem we have with garden trampolines, when they take off in high winds causing danger as they move garden to garden. The same with a marque and many other items, even a stack of corrugated steel sheets.

 

[blup]

What do you think I would want to say, either as an individual or as the "forum spokesperson"? .... perhaps that I think the whole half-baked idea should probably be put on hold for a year or three (until we have a different, coalition, government?) to give people time to hopefully give some serious, sensible, and properly-informed, thought to all of the relevant issues?

I don’t know but your post tally and knowledge suggest it won’t be difficult

 

[ericmark]

I don’t know but your post tally and knowledge suggest it won’t be difficult

So what do you think? Is there really a problem with plug in solar, or is it just scaremongers, or people who have paid a fortune for solar not wanting others to get it at a very much knock down price.

Should the manufacture of uni-directional RCD/RCBO have ever been permitted, and you can add to that should PME have ever been permitted, if uni-directional RCD/RCBO is dangerous, should they be recalled?

 

[JohnW2]

I don’t know but your post tally and knowledge suggest it won’t be difficult

Hmmm. If I (or flameport) were (as initially suggested) to write something as "forum spokesperson", I/we would presumably have to try to present and reflect the consensus view of forum members in whatever we wrote.

What do you think is the "consensus view of forum members" in relation to this matter?

 

[ericmark]

What do you think is the "consensus view of forum members" in relation to this matter?

It would require votes, and would take time, which we don't have, so can't be done.

 

[JohnW2]

Should the manufacture of bidirectional RCD/RCBO have ever been permitted ........ if bidirectional RCD/RCBO is dangerous, should they be recalled?

Do you mean unidirectional ?

I remain very unclear/confused. I'm not even convinced that 'unilateral' devices exist, or ever have existed. We have a company with a vested interest telling us that 'plug-in solar' does not require 'bidirectional' devices, yet they have presented us with a demonstration of their blowing up a 'unilateral' one with a pretty brief press of its test button during 'backwards' current flow! Until that mess of confusion is cleared up for me I really can't even start trying to express an opinion!

 

[JohnW2]

It would require votes, and would take time, which we don't have, so can't be done.

I personally suspect that it's much worse than that, since I doubt that there actually IS anything approaching 'a consensus' amongst forum members (or any other group of people) in relation to this matter!

 

[blup]

Hmmm. If I (or flameport) were (as initially suggested) to write something as "forum spokesperson", I/we would presumably have to try to present and reflect the consensus view of forum members in whatever we wrote.

What do you think is the "consensus view of forum members" in relation to this matter?

You’re good with words John, put something together , run it by Flameport/ the forum, and send it off. The civil servants would be delighted and surprised in equal measure to hear from people who know what they’re talking about.

 

[blup]

So what do you think?

If people generate electricity should be able to keep it or sell it

 

[ericmark]

Do you mean unidirectional ?

Sorry yes.

If people generate electricity should be able to keep it or sell it

It seems not, to have a heat pump it seems one needs planning permission, so if I want to use the excess power I am producing to cool my house, I need permission from the council unless using a portable AC, and not even sure on that.

Some people are simply against change.

 

[JohnW2]

You’re good with words John, put something together , run it by Flameport/ the forum, and send it off.

That wouldn't help me (or flameport) to know what 'something' to say!

If you want my personal thoughts (which you probably don't!), I think I might well be inclined to simply 'ban' all 'non-installed' solar generation, at least unless/until adequate and proper thought, and whatever further 'R&D' may be necessary, have all been applied to the whole business!

In the meantime, if people want to have a beneficial effect on national/global energy usage (and reduce their bills), they perhaps should be giving thoughts to issues like the settings of their thermostats, the duration of their showers, the insulation of their homes etc. etc. and, perhaps more important than many people realise, give very serious consideration to the way in which they use cars (particularly when they have only one occupant)!