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http://www.starchildproject.com/bone.htm

Can't find the stuff on the website, but on the presentation the levels recorded on a mass spectrometer show similar sized spikes in carbon and oxygen, with much higher ones in phosporous and the highest being calcium for human bone.
On the "starchild" skull this is the other way around- much bigger peaks in carbon and oxygen, and much lower in phosphorous and calcium(both with other lesser amounts of sodium/magnesium/silica/aluminium/sulphur

This is more like tooth enamel than "conventional" human bone according to his research, which is why they found it so hard to cut into etc.
 
Wobs, as you so keenly always say - what you're bringing to the table is nothing new(2006?), unlike the presentation I've watched from 2010/11, which utterly disproves this wrong analysis which was used by Steven Novella to try and discredit the work.
Err no it doesn't.

In 1999 the Starchild Skull was tested by the BOLD forensic teaching lab in Canada. They thought they had recovered human nuclear DNA from the "Y" chromosome, proving that the Starchild was a normal human male. This result was later determined to be a contamination.

In 2003 the Starchild Project was able to arrange another DNA test, this time by Trace Genetics, the ancient DNA lab that had tested the Kennewick Man. They were able to recover mitochondrial DNA, but not nuclear DNA. This left two options--either the nuclear DNA was too degraded to recover, or the DNA was too different from that of a human to be detected by the human primers they were using to test it
Degraded DNA in a poorly stored 900 year old sample? Who'd have thought?
In 2006 a new "non specific" method of analysing DNA was discovered, and it took until 2010 to make this further analysis happen purely down to the costs involved...
DNA analysis generally costs about $100 for paternity tests. How much more would any new method cost? Gene sequencing of course is very expensive, but generally unnecessary.

454 Life Sciences Technology:
In 2006, a company called 454 Life Sciences of Branford, Connecticut, announced they had developed a new DNA analysis methodology that enabled sequencing of any unknown DNA sample without prior knowledge of any of its sequences. The only requirement was that the sample to be sequenced had to actually be DNA (in a chemical sense).

The 454 technique was also based on using primers, but these primers were standardized for every imaginable analysis, not specific to the DNA to be analyzed. It was exactly what was needed to recover and sequence the Starchild’s elusive nuclear DNA.
So they'll have no bother providing the actual report from the lab. Oh wait, he doesn't want that, as it will show he's a fraud.


But then Occams blunt Razor means it must be hydrocephalus as Novella claims eh?
Even though the bone composition which has recently been analysed shows totally different makeup from normal human bone- half as thick, half the density yet much much stronger....never mind what the DNA is saying!
Occams razor says that it could be a range of explanations other than an alien hybrid.

Lets skip the unlikelyhood of an alien visitor in the last 1000 years, and address the concept of an alien getting it on with a human: A chimpanzee shares about 99% of its DNA makeup with humans, infact they are more closely related to us than they are to gorillas. They evolved on not just the same planet, but the same continent. And yet we are incompatible. We cannot make a chimp/human hybrid.

Now imagine the likelyhood that an alien would be even remotely compatible with human DNA (bare in mind that DNA as we know it, is likely only found on Earth). It just doesn't seem likely, and as such Occams Razor requires a great deal of evidence to support this idea. Even if aliens had DNA in a similar structure, the billions of variations that are possible, combined with the chances that an advanced race would chance upon Earth at a time when humans were around (and not transitting anything) points to this being a total hoax.

It contains no unusual chemicals. The proportions of the different elements are different, but this is not unknown in archeology or modern medicine. Neither is finding enlarged skulls unknown in humans. There are a range of conditions that bring about such effects, and they bring about unusual side effects such as those seen in the skull, but they are usually genetic. It is probable that this is what the person suffered from.

BTW, if as you say:
The "father" part does not exist on any database of DNA currently known- not human, ape or anything else we know of in existence.
Then this is clearly wrong:
They'll never find the "missing link" that turned us from apes into humans because we didn't evolve from them....
As, if we are decended from this family, there would be DNA records in our DNA.
So which is it?

Pye exhibits the classic signs of a pseudoscientist: One of the persecuted or ignored scientist, who won't release his findings in detail, and is quick to make a quick buck. I'm waiting for him to say something along the lines of "they laughed at Galileo!" next.
...oh wait, I wasn't far off:
http://www.lloydpye.com/intervention/Earth-BigBangBunk.htm

PS. Did I mention he's clearly only in it for the money? As he keeps asking for donations and for you to buy his ebook to raise about £500,000 to do further tests and a documentary. I wonder what he'll do when he fails to raise that cash, but still has some money from people. Hmmmm
 
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