I appreciate my desperation has no bearing, it's the planners opinion i am questioning....
PP Declined - Overly Dominant Extension Vs Local Plan policy - Appeal?
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Yep one mans castle .....
The application hasnt been refused yet, but will be on Friday 13th...
I have a dilema now as Wessex makes a good point. Ive not provided additional argument to the original application as Case officer only responded on Monday after 7 weeks.. Should I withdraw the app so no decision is made and re-group and resubmit with a more comprehensive argument.... Or do what Napoleon suggests and just appeal the refusal when it happens?
And that is your problem.
As a lay person you do not have the knowledge and experience of planning and design concepts. As the applicant, your subjectivity is biased. That's not a criticism, but merely how it is.
You will find that there is a plethora of supporting information to back up subserviency as a concept - in terms of planning and architectural concepts and precedent appeal decisions. And you will need to be aware of these in order to justify your contention that the design is in fact subservient and policy compliant.
You won't have anything to lose by appealing a refusal. But be careful not to fall into the trap of advancing common layperson arguments of subserviency, instead of those of planning and design concepts.
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Planning authorities don't like setting precedents. You might want to look around the area and demonstrate that to grant what you want doesn't set a precedent. If you don't find any, I suspect you will struggle.
My tuppence worth.....
My own extension was approved, without a set-back/lowered ridge because mine is the end house in a row. To the side of my house (with the extension) is open space.
My own extension was approved, without a set-back/lowered ridge because mine is the end house in a row. To the side of my house (with the extension) is open space.
Well if you take this application to appeal without any supporting information how it complies with the policy I wouldn't like to rate your chances of success. Then what are you going to do? You've got a planning refusal and a failed appeal so you just resubmit the exact same application with a bit more waffle to justify the extension isn't overly dominant? Good luck with that strategy.
I didn't say I wasn't going to take it to appeal without additional information; that would be stupid. I assumed as part of the appeal process I could provide that information at that time, rather than now at the planning application phase as they are about to slam the door on me...
I've just re-read your post #13 Wessex... You are of the opinion that unless the additional information is presented on the original application, you don't have the opportunity at appeal to provide it? That seems harsh.
I didn't really make it clear, you outline your reasons in your appeal statement which can include some limited additional information. As this case is just down to interpretation of a planning policy that may be all you need. Just not the way I would do it but that is just personal preference.
You can't add extra detail or bring new information into the appeal. It is purely based on the application, the information provided, and the planners report and interpretaion of policy.
It's an appeal on the planners decision - which could only have been based on whatever information he had from the applicant, a site visit and what was available from the local policy and national planning policy/law.
It's an appeal on the planners decision - which could only have been based on whatever information he had from the applicant, a site visit and what was available from the local policy and national planning policy/law.
Well a lot can happen in 24 hours! Ive learnt a lot in this thread and hope others do as well. The update today is that after i asked the Case officer to send me the previous local plan and policies relating to domestic extensions, as there had been "material" changes in planning policy, he did so and there were no material changes....... As i said earlier, at least 3 house extensions were approved under the previous local plan as compliant with policy (same design as ours) even though they werent necessarily subservient; i was told the new plan applied to me and precedent didnt apply. Long story short, planning officer did a 180 deg u turn today and will accept our original plan with a minor change. No step down/back. I think he knew it would be marginal at appeal.
Thanks to all that read and contibiuted especially Woody and Wessex. I am happy!
Thanks to all that read and contibiuted especially Woody and Wessex. I am happy!
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